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This must be a cultural thing. When I put MiniYMZ in daycare at 3 months old, my parents cried bloody murder and their friends pestered me about why I didn't trust my own parents to take care of her. Eventually we let them take care of the kids and I had to force them to take payment, which they promptly stuck in the kids' 529 plans.

That said, RG is right. It really shouldn't be the way you're describing.
if my parents lived anywhere close to us our life would end up like that Everyone loves Raymond show.

 
I know. It shouldn't. And knowing her, I should have foreseen it coming. Nothing ends well with her. Everything is an offense against her and everything is taken personally.
This touches on something I've been wondering about. Girls are taught from when they're little about what qualities to look for in a good man. I haven't heard so much about boys being taught what qualities to look for in a good woman. Why is that?

I have a friend whose SIL sounds like NJ's MIL. My friend's dad frequently tells the SIL that he thinks she's a self-centered dumbass, which I find hilarious. Dramatic women like that aren't called on their sh!t nearly often enough.

 
I know. It shouldn't. And knowing her, I should have foreseen it coming. Nothing ends well with her. Everything is an offense against her and everything is taken personally.
This touches on something I've been wondering about. Girls are taught from when they're little about what qualities to look for in a good man. I haven't heard so much about boys being taught what qualities to look for in a good woman. Why is that?

I have a friend whose SIL sounds like NJ's MIL. My friend's dad frequently tells the SIL that he thinks she's a self-centered dumbass, which I find hilarious. Dramatic women like that aren't called on their sh!t nearly often enough.
^sometimes they are just desparate and will put up with it to avoid being alone.

 
I know. It shouldn't. And knowing her, I should have foreseen it coming. Nothing ends well with her. Everything is an offense against her and everything is taken personally.
This touches on something I've been wondering about. Girls are taught from when they're little about what qualities to look for in a good man. I haven't heard so much about boys being taught what qualities to look for in a good woman. Why is that?

I have a friend whose SIL sounds like NJ's MIL. My friend's dad frequently tells the SIL that he thinks she's a self-centered dumbass, which I find hilarious. Dramatic women like that aren't called on their sh!t nearly often enough.
Magazines tell the boys what to look for: nice hair, full lips, big boobs, curves... :p

 
I know. It shouldn't. And knowing her, I should have foreseen it coming. Nothing ends well with her. Everything is an offense against her and everything is taken personally.
This touches on something I've been wondering about. Girls are taught from when they're little about what qualities to look for in a good man. I haven't heard so much about boys being taught what qualities to look for in a good woman. Why is that?

I have a friend whose SIL sounds like NJ's MIL. My friend's dad frequently tells the SIL that he thinks she's a self-centered dumbass, which I find hilarious. Dramatic women like that aren't called on their sh!t nearly often enough.
well for starters, my IL's are divorced (based on this topic it's no real surprise). My FIL is a quiet, man, says very little about his opinion or what's bothering him. Keeps to himself. He used to be an EE back in the 80's before the market tanked and he lost his job. Very analytical man so I get along very well with him. Anyway, upon filing divorce, they both continued to live together to provide a family presence for the kids (Mrs NJ and BIL) until each finished HS. Then the housing market tanked again and they couldn't sell. So they've been living together, divorced for some time. They truly act as if they are a married couple, but each has different rooms. Neither dates. She does all the duties of a SAHW would (cooking, laundry, etc) and in exchange he pays the bills. Still the threat of selling the house looms though.

That all being said, you can better understand why I gave her the time (4 months pay) to look for a new job while Mrs NJ was on paid leave. It was in most's eyes, imperative that she transition and be able to support herself if necessary. I was looking out for her best interests even though it has not been perceived that way. Instead, she blames us for her failures. And now, her 30 YO son (BIL) is paying for her meds, personal items, car ins., etc.

 
I'll forgo the scream because I have no more left to give.

So we're replacing and commissioning at 250,000 gallon wastewater tank. The final walkdown is in 20 minutes and Operations plans to be filling it (returning to service) tonight. "So what's the problem"? you may ask. Well, the project manager forgot to order manway gaskets. He's asking me for material, size, torque value, etc... Dude... isn't that your job? You know, to get all materials and everything answered ahead of time?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

 
Some people want a trophy just for volunteering to show up. It doesn't matter whether they follow through or not, because having the intention of helping makes them a good person, and being a good guy is the only thing that matters when someone is depending on you.

 
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I love the undependable contractors. Douche was supposed to call me last night to confirm the time for a septic bed inspection. Damn thing is failing and the pump is CONSTANTLY running and will probably burn out if not fixed. Not to mention that the bed is completely saturated and not leaching properly. He insists that ground water is the cause, even though he dug a hole next to the bed and it was bone dry.

Did he call me yesterday? no. Has he returned my call from this morning? No. Douche.

 
krak - we had the same realization when we almost moved to jacksonville a few years ago...

If it makes you feel any better look up house prices in the 80023 zip code...

 
krak - we had the same realization when we almost moved to jacksonville a few years ago...

If it makes you feel any better look up house prices in the 80023 zip code...
$151,000 - $200,000 per acre for open field to build on!!! (checking the lowest listings)

How could you ever make it out of debt? Are wages really that much better there to cover this?

 
Roman Noodles or chicken n rice for dinner 4 -5 nights a week.....

Were looking at we only have 6 years and then all kids will be out of house and then we will hopefully be selling to the next batch if fools that want to move here to someplace cheaper... If I could go 15 miles into next county land and houses are cheap but schools are shit.....

Still sucks though.....

 
^^^ Where are you looking Krak?

You may want to stay in an area close to the Beeline (528). It will make your commute a bit better.
Yes, I'm going to make sure I'm close to the 528 or 520. Where I'd like to live is close to downtown winter park or downtown Orlando (thornton park/lake eola areas). But those are pricey. We basically decided instead of throwing all our money to rent where we want to live we'd live a little further out to find something cheaper and save up to be able to buy (assuming we stay here) in the area we want to live in a year or two. We've been looking in Altamonte Springs although that's probably a little too far north for my commute. My brother lives near Lee Vista and Econlockhatchee trail close to the airport. We might look around there since it's a nice neighborhood. The problem we keep running into is we'll see a nice neighborhood but then a mile or two down the road is ghetto.

 
Oldest kids band is going to play in Rose Bowl next year....

Guess how much that will cost me?

 
Depends... are they flying or taking a bus?

When Mich State was in the Rose Bowl this year, several people I know flew out there--they paid well over $1000 each just for plane tickets, which usually run around $300-400.

 
Flying. $1800 bucks....

And I hate to be the parent that says you can't go. But there really "ain't" much that even fundraising will help with...pennies...

I think it sounds nice and all, I didn't get to do crap like that in High School.

It's just an expense i don't really need.....

 
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