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^ I get letters from Honda all the time that it's time to turn in my 2001 CRV (all paid off thank you) because its such a hot used car and I can get big time trade in value for it.

I could probably get about $5k for it right now, but then I'd have to take on payments on a new one again, which I'm not up for.

I never understood people that were obsessed with getting max trade in value on a car and swap it every 3-5 years. It means you always have payments.

 
^ I get letters from Honda all the time that it's time to turn in my 2001 CRV (all paid off thank you) because its such a hot used car and I can get big time trade in value for it.
I could probably get about $5k for it right now, but then I'd have to take on payments on a new one again, which I'm not up for.

I never understood people that were obsessed with getting max trade in value on a car and swap it every 3-5 years. It means you always have payments.
I really enjoyed the last year and a half where we didn't have car payments... but my desire to have a truck led us into more payments and here we are.

It was uncomfortable for me to dish out $200 a month for a pickup.

 
^ I get letters from Honda all the time that it's time to turn in my 2001 CRV (all paid off thank you) because its such a hot used car and I can get big time trade in value for it.
I could probably get about $5k for it right now, but then I'd have to take on payments on a new one again, which I'm not up for.

I never understood people that were obsessed with getting max trade in value on a car and swap it every 3-5 years. It means you always have payments.
I like my 2006 CRV so if I ever needed a new car i'd probably get another one, but I don't like the body style of the current design. They made it a shorter vehicle that looks more like a station wagon. I prefer to sit a little higher off the ground.

no car payments is a great feeling.

 
^ I get letters from Honda all the time that it's time to turn in my 2001 CRV (all paid off thank you) because its such a hot used car and I can get big time trade in value for it.
Funny thing is that it was a Honda dealership writing me, too. But the car in question was a Nissan Sentra. I doubt that it really was "a car in great demand," as stated in the letter, by much of anyone.

 
i refuse to drive a minivan
In Texas? gotta roll in one of these. . .

I like my 2006 CRV so if I ever needed a new car i'd probably get another one, but I don't like the body style of the current design. They made it a shorter vehicle that looks more like a station wagon. I prefer to sit a little higher off the ground.
no car payments is a great feeling.
I like the look of the Ford Flex - but having no car payment on our Honda Ody is a wonderful thing. Only Chrysler carries a minivan anymore, among the Big 3

 
I like the look of the Ford Flex - but having no car payment on our Honda Ody is a wonderful thing. Only Chrysler carries a minivan anymore, among the Big 3
We saw a Flex in person the other day and found the exterior styling absolutely beastly. It sort of looks like a hearse, IMO. I think the Flex is a love-it-or-hate-it sort of vehicle, and for that sort of money I'd get a Honda Pilot or Chevy Traverse. I preferred the Ford Edge in terms of styling but alas, the Edge is well outside our price range. We also decided that the Escape is really lacking in back seat legroom, so it's now off our list. We didn't even bother test-driving it.

We're now down to three serious contenders: Honda CR-V, Subaru Forester, and Chevy Equinox. The Forester looks nice and is priced well, but everything I read indicates that Subarus are nightmares for installing child car seats, and it's next to impossible to install any car seat in the middle of the current Forester. Since the middle of the back seat is the safest location for a car seat, this concerns us. This is going to be our family hauler for the next 5-odd years and we need to be able to put a car seat in any of the rear three seating positions. We might borrow a car seat from my SIL and see if we can install it properly or not when we go on our test drive.

I really like both the CR-V and Equinox. The 'Nox is a little on the high side for MSRP to equip comparably to the CR-V, but Chevy is giving some nice incentives at the moment that may make it about the same price out-the-door.

 
What year 'nox? The 'nox is all new, and much better for '10. No discounts on that one. But the outgoing version is nice with the Sport model. That's also the only one that doesn't come with a Chinese made engine.

No Chinamotor in the '10!

 
You could get a Nissan Cube.

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I saw one on the street yesterday. UGLIEST. CAR. EVAR! I never thought anything could be uglier than the Pontiac Asstek, but I was wrong.

 
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I too witnessed a Nissan Cube earlier in the week and its visage is indeed grotesque. Whatever aesthetic it aims for it certainly fails.

 
I have to say I'm more than a bit bothered by the "that's an incredibly poor financial decision" talk.

Squishles asked for your opinion on a car, not on her financial situation. Even more relevant, she's not asking one of you to pay for it.

I enjoy driving a new car. I like the new car smell, I like the way a new car drives, and I like to have a new model year car. I pay a premium for these preferences, one that some people don't think it is worth. I trade cars every one to two years, and I've never been upside down in a vehicle. Yes, I pay more to be able to do that. Technically, a case of beer is a poor financial decision too, but I buy that because I enjoy it also.

That's my opinion. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make it wrong either. Same goes for Squishles.

Squishles - Have you considered an Acadia/Outlook/Enclave/Traverse? My wife has an Outlook, and my mom just bought an Acadia. We've been pleased with them. My wife can get 24-26 MPG, and it has a lot of room. My mom went from a Tahoe to her Acadia, and is surprised at how much more room the Acadia has, especially in the third row. Now, I have two uncles that retired from GM, so I'm partial to their products. However, I think it's at least worth looking at considering your restraints.

 
What year 'nox? The 'nox is all new, and much better for '10. No discounts on that one. But the outgoing version is nice with the Sport model. That's also the only one that doesn't come with a Chinese made engine.
No Chinamotor in the '10!
The '10. The '09 is decent, but the '10 is really looking like a good competitor to the Rav4 and CR-V. Actually, most of the Chevy dealerships around here don't have many of the '09s on their lots. The one down the road has three of the '10s and only one of the '09s (and it's the fully-loaded one at that, which isn't going to happen even with the deals they're offering now).

I have a GM supplier discount that I may resort to if we go with the Nox and can't negotiate a better deal, and the $1000 Conquest cash is still available on the '10s. GM clearly expects it to be a big hit, so I wouldn't expect stellar deals on it for a while.

I too witnessed a Nissan Cube earlier in the week and its visage is indeed grotesque. Whatever aesthetic it aims for it certainly fails.
The Cube is truly beastly-looking. That said, I don't like any of the "box on wheels" vehicles that have been out in recent years. Mr. Bug's cousin has an Element and I don't like it at all (for more reasons than being a box on wheels). I prefer vehicles with some curves to them (as one might expect from a New Beetle owner).

Squishles - Have you considered an Acadia/Outlook/Enclave/Traverse? My wife has an Outlook, and my mom just bought an Acadia. We've been pleased with them. My wife can get 24-26 MPG, and it has a lot of room. My mom went from a Tahoe to her Acadia, and is surprised at how much more room the Acadia has, especially in the third row. Now, I have two uncles that retired from GM, so I'm partial to their products. However, I think it's at least worth looking at considering your restraints.
The Acadia is very, very nice. A guy at work (whose dad is a big muckety-muck with GM) just got an Acadia and we were drooling over it in the parking lot. I also like the Traverse. Those Lambda platform CUVs are very nice overall. We would probably go with a Traverse or Acadia if it was in our budget, but we can't get one with the options we'd want for a price that we're comfortable paying. Just a personal choice there. :)

 
The Acadia is very, very nice.
Oughta be. Holy crap that's an expensive vehicle. I really didn't expect them to be that expensive. First one I saw was 41K! Since then, i haven't seen one under 35K at the dealer. That is insane to me.

But, to each his own.

 
I have to say I'm more than a bit bothered by the "that's an incredibly poor financial decision" talk.
Squishles asked for your opinion on a car, not on her financial situation. Even more relevant, she's not asking one of you to pay for it.

I enjoy driving a new car. I like the new car smell, I like the way a new car drives, and I like to have a new model year car. I pay a premium for these preferences, one that some people don't think it is worth. I trade cars every one to two years, and I've never been upside down in a vehicle. Yes, I pay more to be able to do that. Technically, a case of beer is a poor financial decision too, but I buy that because I enjoy it also.

That's my opinion. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make it wrong either. Same goes for Squishles.

Squishles - Have you considered an Acadia/Outlook/Enclave/Traverse? My wife has an Outlook, and my mom just bought an Acadia. We've been pleased with them. My wife can get 24-26 MPG, and it has a lot of room. My mom went from a Tahoe to her Acadia, and is surprised at how much more room the Acadia has, especially in the third row. Now, I have two uncles that retired from GM, so I'm partial to their products. However, I think it's at least worth looking at considering your restraints.
+1

I too enjoy driving new vehicles. While I don't turn them over as quickly as jmbeck, I still turn over a vehicle in about 3-4 years. I am willing & comfortable with paying this premium. I understand both sides of the argument.

I always have this argument with my parents each time I get a new car. They feel a car is used to get from point A to point B, that's it. I however, LOVE TO DRIVE. Because I spend ~3 hours per day behind the wheel of my car, I want that car to have every creature comfort I can (leather, heated seats, satilite radio, etc.) and also have a performance aspect that makes the ~3 hours per day enjoyable (spory suspension, powerful engine, etc).

If you want to drive a 4-5 year old car, good for you. I have no issues with what you choose to do with your money, but I do ask that the financial lectures be saved for your kids.

 
Oughta be. Holy crap that's an expensive vehicle. I really didn't expect them to be that expensive. First one I saw was 41K! Since then, i haven't seen one under 35K at the dealer. That is insane to me.
But, to each his own.
The base price on a GMC Acadia SLT is only $2000 more than a Toyota Highlander limited and equal in price to a Toyota 4Runner Limited. With what I thought is a much roomier vehicle. Also, I know you can't get Navigation on the Highlander, not sure about the 4Runner, but that in itself is a $2000 option. The sunroof option on the Acadia is actually two pieces, and thus more expensive as well.

My wife really wanted a Highlander before she saw the Outlook. When we were comparing the two (comparably equipped), they were equally priced, in our experience.

I know it's the cool thing for everyone to slam on vehicles from the "Big Three", so if that's the case don't let a little thing like the facts get in the way.

 
I have to say I'm more than a bit bothered by the "that's an incredibly poor financial decision" talk.
Squishles asked for your opinion on a car, not on her financial situation. Even more relevant, she's not asking one of you to pay for it.

I enjoy driving a new car. I like the new car smell, I like the way a new car drives, and I like to have a new model year car. I pay a premium for these preferences, one that some people don't think it is worth. I trade cars every one to two years, and I've never been upside down in a vehicle. Yes, I pay more to be able to do that. Technically, a case of beer is a poor financial decision too, but I buy that because I enjoy it also.

That's my opinion. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make it wrong either. Same goes for Squishles.
She brought the financial stuff into the discussion. Had she left at "what do you think of these particular models" then the conversation never would have gone down that road, but when she started mentioning payments and prices the financial side of the equation becomes fair game

we want to pay around $35k for it, less is obviously better. more accurately, no more than $600 a month on the payment so a better interest rate plays into the price. right now i have no job so i wont drive it much but i assume ill drive it to work eventually, and itll be the main vacation driver.
Telling people that you are looking for a $35k car when you don't have a job should raise a red flag

 
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I know it's the cool thing for everyone to slam on vehicles from the "Big Three", so if that's the case don't let a little thing like the facts get in the way.
We own three Chevies, and our direct families have nothing but American cars, so, no, that isn't the case. I just was surpised by the cost. I thought they were gonna be a good bit cheaper.

 
We own three Chevies, and our direct families have nothing but American cars, so, no, that isn't the case. I just was surpised by the cost. I thought they were gonna be a good bit cheaper.
Sorry, I admit I was being a goober with that last comment. I allowed an earlier conversation with a co-worker about his new Tundra. Being a generally nice guy (above instance excluded), I asked him if he liked his new truck and other general questions. He then proceeds to tell me how Toyota makes a superior vehicle to every other car on the road, and that the Tundra is the best full-sized truck ever and that GM, Ford, and Dodge were incredible pieces of crap and he doesn't understand why people still buy those because they can't compete.

I drive a GMC Sierra.

So, while I was trying to allow this guy a chance to share in his happiness about his new vehicle, he runs every vehicle I've ever owned down in the process.

And that happens very frequently.

Notice I didn't say "American cars", because there's no such thing anymore. There are a lot of so called "American cars" built in Mexico, Canada, and elsewhere. Additionally, there are more Southerners (my people) employed by Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, and the like than the big three has ever considered.

However, we still consider the big three the "American cars". I don't know, but I'm assuming that, dollar for dollar, more of what you spend on a vehicle from the big three stays in America. But I don't know that for sure. However, that assumption is what keeps me buying from GM and Ford. But, I don't fault anyone that doesn't, nor do I consider them un-American, especially considering the multitude of "foreign" assembly plants in the South.

I also don't talk about someone else's choice in vehicles because it's a major cost that most people take pride in. We don't wash our cars for nothing. We want them to look good. So, I'm not going to run someone else's vehicle down because of that.

 
She brought the financial stuff into the discussion. Had she left at "what do you think of these particular models" then the conversation never would have gone down that road, but when she started mentioning payments and prices the financial side of the equation becomes fair game
Telling people that you are looking for a $35k car when you don't have a job should raise a red flag
And I just took it that it was another constraint for vehicle recommendations. Such as "You know, Nissan has 0% financing".

Additionally, she was adding it will become a high mileage vehicle once she gets a job.

I'm just pointing out that this thread quickly became an "OMG, you're ignorant for considering a new car, especially with no job, buy a 5 year old Corolla!".

And maybe I'm wrong. I just know that I wouldn't like the condescending attitude in a lot of these posts directed toward me.

 
No problem. Just wanted you to know it really wasn't a slam.

Oddly enough, two of our Chevies are made in America. One was made in Canada.

 
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