Sometimes you just need to scream!!!

[Road Guy]

anyone I know? LOL....

my son will be in this thread in 1.5 years.. were keeping the pruis that much longer and gooing to give it to him when he turns 16 and the wife will get a new car. im trying to talk her out of a subaru but am losing

 

[Dexman PE PMP]

im trying to talk her out of a subaru but am losing

You're going native...

I really enjoy car shopping. Maybe it's because I used to work at a dealership so I know the tactics, maybe it's because I like arguing, maybe it's because I love driving other people's cars with wreckless abandon, but in any case I end up getting what I want and having fun in the process.

The first thing you have to do when car shopping is prepare yourself to walk away. It may be the perfect car, but if the financials aren't there you have to walk away. Dealerships rely on the emotional side as a key negotiation point (You really like the car, don't you? Can you put a price on happiness?), and the ability to walk away removes that tactic from the table.

 

[roadwreck]

anyone I know? LOL....

Well he still has the Jag, but he typically drives the Leaf these days...

I really enjoy car shopping. Maybe it's because I used to work at a dealership so I know the tactics, maybe it's because I like arguing, maybe it's because I love driving other people's cars with wreckless abandon, but in any case I end up getting what I want and having fun in the process.

The first thing you have to do when car shopping is prepare yourself to walk away. It may be the perfect car, but if the financials aren't there you have to walk away. Dealerships rely on the emotional side as a key negotiation point (You really like the car, don't you? Can you put a price on happiness?), and the ability to walk away removes that tactic from the table.

Oh I have no trouble walking away and I don't fall into the typical traps or mind games the sales people try to use, I just really really really really really hate haggling on price. In this regard I'm probably better off going someplace like CarMax I suppose.

 

[Road Guy]

no f'n way he bought a LEAF?

 

[roadwreck]

Yup. It looks really cute with the GT football helmet magnet on the back too.

 

[Lumber Jim]

Check out cargurus.com

We bought a new vehicle last week and found this website provided some ammo for getting to the price point that we wanted based on market value, vs. the trade in value. We still probably got screwed but at least I was able to get the vehicle below market value and felt good about how the price conversation went. I too hate haggling but I also have a pretty good idea about the margins that they are trying to get and so I wasn't going to waiver and was ready to walkout. The website allowed me to tell the business manager that was haggling with me "Don't make me drive to XXXXX to look at a similar vehicle for $1000 less. Get to my price because I really don't want to drive there to check it out." He got to my price and threw in some extras when I insisted on them as well.

Remember to buy the vehicle at the end of the month. Salesman need to make their numbers and are willing to argue less if they can get the vehicle "off the books" by month end...

 

[engineergurl]

I think it's safe to say that it's hard to find a Bona fide agenda free "study" on the issue....

But for starters if someone could tell me what the temperature was on earth the day the dinosaurs died I would appreciate it...

Everyone in boulder believes the recent floods was a result of "climate change" not just maybe a lot if heavy rain over a shirt period of time....

I don't know about air temp but supposedly the ocean temperature went from 13C to 4C at some specific depth and scientists have used that information to conclude the temperature drop is what killed them. I guess someone out there probably has data to correlate between the atmospheric changes with the under water changes, but in my opinion it would be too much speculation to trust as an indicator that another ice age is on it's way.

 

[YMZ PE]

Mini YMZ was finding every little thing to whine at me for all morning. Then Mr. YMZ spilled an entire 20 oz. soda on me so I walked a mile home by myself to change. This Saturday is dead to me.

 

[Road Guy]

Sorry!

Resident Evil is on tv though!

Always makes me feel better

 

[NJmike PE]

Been sick with the flu all day. Funny, when Mrs NJ is sick I do my best to help. Yet today I'm bedridden and she's pissed at me.

 

[matt267 PE]

^ feel better Mike.

You should make the Mrs' sleep on the couch. She how she likes it.

 

[NJmike PE]

^ feel better Mike.

You should make the Mrs' sleep on the couch. She how she likes it. 

That'll be the day

 

[Master slacker]

^ feel better Mike.

You should make the Mrs' sleep on the couch. She how she likes it.

That'll be the day

when i die

 

[YMZ PE]

Been sick with the flu all day. Funny, when Mrs NJ is sick I do my best to help. Yet today I'm bedridden and she's pissed at me.

Lucky Mrs NJ. My husband's not shy about calling me out when I act like that.

 

[engineergurl]

I don't like posts in here, I wish I could make everyone's screams be better...

 

[MA_PE]

Mini YMZ was finding every little thing to whine at me for all morning. Then Mr. YMZ spilled an entire 20 oz. soda on me so I walked a mile home by myself to change. This Saturday is dead to me.

Sorry to hear it. That's a PITA

Been sick with the flu all day. Funny, when Mrs NJ is sick I do my best to help. Yet today I'm bedridden and she's pissed at me.

Slacker! You're faking it.

 

[NJmike PE]

No, slacker wasn't sick. I was.

 

[YMZ PE]

Our 2013 Nissan Altima has a 14" crack in the windshield originating from the bottom center and branching out symmetrically on either side. Kind of looks like the Texas longhorns symbol. The dealer claims there was an impact that occurred between the two wiper blades. Interestingly, another car arrived at the same time with the exact same defect, and a little "impact point" at the exact same location as mine. The dealer made a stupid comment about whether we're driving behind the same trucks, but basically I'm SOL to get it replaced under warranty.

Looked it up online and there are tons of Nissan owners with the same issue. So how does one go about initiating a class action lawsuit?

 

[knight1fox3]

Our 2013 Nissan Altima has a 14" crack in the windshield originating from the bottom center and branching out symmetrically on either side. Kind of looks like the Texas longhorns symbol. The dealer claims there was an impact that occurred between the two wiper blades. Interestingly, another car arrived at the same time with the exact same defect, and a little "impact point" at the exact same location as mine. The dealer made a stupid comment about whether we're driving behind the same trucks, but basically I'm SOL to get it replaced under warranty.

Looked it up online and there are tons of Nissan owners with the same issue. So how does one go about initiating a class action lawsuit?

Not sure about the lawsuit part, but do you have any repair services like this?

 

[snickerd3]

we thought the neighbor was just keeping his dog inside for the winter. Found out yesterday that she died this winter. She frequently wandered off with one of the other dogs in the neighborhood so when she didn't come home they first thought she was snatched. Once the snow/ice thawed farmers found her body in a pond and called him. She must have fallen through the ice while playing.