That would certainly make things interesting. As someone told me, the exam used to be a "pick the problems you want to solve" format for the afternoon.I'd like to see the afternoon be four two hour problems given, yet the the engineer selects 2 only. If the afternoon is meant to check engineering judgement / process and so forth then they're much likely to see that if a person was working with a material they liked. And bc of it being two hours there's no reason why NCEES still can't work other material related items into a question, but in general a question should clearly skew one direction. So everyone gets to pick their best two materials but write them in such a way that any two questions hits all four major materials.
I think what you really need is a disinformation campaign here on the forums coupled with a well placed mole in NCEES to advocate for change. Either that or become a lawyer since the pay is better and the bar is easier to pass.1- We need a voice to represent us: doesnt have to be an examinee but someone we trust....say for example @David Connor, SE
2- We need to know what is happening during the exam writing workshops
3- We need to see psychiatric assessment of the subject matter experts writing the questions
4- We demand reforms to the way the exam is corrected: if someone scores AAAA in the afternoon that should be an immediate pass
Last year the scoring session was a week after Thanksgiving 11/29-12/1. Assuming it's the same this year then the grading will be 12/5-12/7. Results are typically released 7-10 days after the grading session so my money is on mid-December around 12/16.Hi,
Do you have any idea when we will get to know the results?
The registration for April 2020 begins on dec 9th so may be we will get it on Dec 6th (Friday).
Did you pass Vertical? If so, you still have a good year and a half left to try assuming you didn't nail it this time!Ugh, I'm going to feel like a real ASSFACE if I don't pass Lateral this time around. Been 3 years since my last try....win or lose, I'm done! Which is a nice feeling lol.
Nobody did. They make those comments every administration due to some idiot listing a problem in its entirety on here a few years ago. NCEES doesn’t like you talking period, though. They want you in a vacuum of ignorance on problem types and methodology despite your entire education being geared toward exams. My best recommendation to all of you is to apply for appointment for your respective boards and fix this shit. The exam should be hard and you shouldn’t know exactly what is on it, but sharing content and even seeing your exam after grading shouldn’t be an issue. Think about this, as structural engineers, how often do you do something groundbreaking? Practically never. When you do, it ends up going through tons of red tape and a patent process. I honestly think that exposing the types of problems and the potential pitfalls and solutions would make better engineers all the way around. I’ve never agreed with the level of secrecy presented, but like I said, change it from the inside.Who did?