The poster said they were denied entry at 7:10 am. Here is a link to the post
ughh that's a sucky situation. I *think* I understand why they won't administer another exam, but I still feel awful for those that got robbed of the opportunity to take the test in October. I would hope that NCEES finds some way to make things right for those candidates. It's little consolation that whatever temp-agency-like subcontractor administered the exam
may lose future contracts or get penalized.
To answer the question on everyone's mind: no I would not expect this to delay the release of the results for everyone else. At least not directly. People in the past have heard me talk about how NCEES has to investigate incidents surrounding the exam, and this is sort of an example of that. Usually they're looking at incidences of potential cheating: cell phones and electronics; writing in books, non-bound notes, general belligerence, etc. I suspect those investigations are one of the longer poles in the schedule and since NCEES has limited staff they can't easily crash the effort. One would think that the number of investigations is proportional to the number of exam sites and number of examinees.
No way that someone should be denied entry at 7:15 AM, regardless of what their exam authorization stated. Unless they were an hour or more late, ridiculous.
Inclined to agree, but with the caveat that I don't know what the exam authorization stated. If it said be in line be 6:45, and the line was empty at 7:10, then yeah everyone after 7:10 should be SOL. But it doesn't read like that was the situation here.
Somebody in my office said that since this is the last paper based exam for PE Civil, the results are more likely to be released sooner than the usual time. Is this something might happen?
No way! Maybe this is the first time a release happens in November, but if it is it'll be on Nov 30 (Day 39); and it would be an artifact of the way the calendar fell this year. And to be clear: I'm not predicting a Nov 30 release.
January's release was an outlier with special circumstances that won't ever get repeated. April 2021 was a normal April administration, and this looks to be a typical October too. They still have to do all the normal work and documentation that they would in any other administration, e.g. see above on investigations.
I know Texas and one other state completely redefine how the passing and failing results are presented, so there's that too.
Texas is the only State that gives candidates their score if they passed. We don't actually know if it's Texas or NCEES that prepares that score. What we do know if that it's hard to derive the cut score from the Texas passing scores. The curve or formulation does not appear to be completely linear.
There are a few States (I think Georgia and Alabama) that per State Law give bonus points to vets and/or disable vets, but I've never seen how this works in practice. And I'd be scared to consider how that works when a licensed PE who barely failed the exam tries to apply via comity to a third State. Seems like a recipe for disaster.