April 2021 Post Exam Wait Period - Welcome to the Suck

[WaterGuyHH]

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my desperation has come to this.... i was looking at this yesterday and it seems Georgia has added a grand total of 7 PE licenses since yesterday lol (i believe it was at 23,379)

It's gone up!

 

[Tmanwatery PE]

Did that survey ever fully post with the results of everyone?

I placed the survey and results in the following thread

https://engineerboards.com/threads/april-2021-exam-results-study-pattern-survey.37016/

 

[Tmanwatery PE]

anyone whos curious it appears the combined total of answers I received was 332. 257 in the pass survey and 75 in the fail survey

 

[J_son]

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It's gone up!

I am beyond frustrated. How can it take GA a week longer than almost every other state? And they do not even give an estimate of when results will be released

 

[enginear19]

https://ncees.org/exams/cbt/
They provide the only reference allowed in the exam. It'll be a PDF specifically for the exam you are registered for. You can download the PDF prior to the exam to aid in studying.

Is this applicable for the PE too?!?! Surely we will be allowed to bring in other references...

 

[Be-n]

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Look at the Passing Rate.... Construction and Structure took a hard hit....

Wow! Now all Civil PEs should accept that Structural is the toughest exam
I don’t know about all folks taking Construction exam, but I’ve noticed that people that usually take this exam do not do engineering computations on daily bases because they work in construction management field. This is probably why this exam is pretty tough on them. Would you agree?

 

[WaterGuyHH]

I am beyond frustrated. How can it take GA a week longer than almost every other state? And they do not even give an estimate of when results will be released

Yeah I know we should count it all the joy to practice patience but this is getting wild. I called the Secretary of State's office to see if I can get anything out of them. Kind of wild that NCEES has already updated their total numbers without Georgia being released.

 

[J_son]

Yeah I know we should count it all the joy to practice patience but this is getting wild. I called the Secretary of State's office to see if I can get anything out of them. Kind of wild that NCEES has already updated their total numbers without Georgia being released.

I have been avoiding calling the office because I know it is not a good use of their time, and I would not fully trust any results they are willing to share. But, I did break down and call today. They had a high call volume, and I was put on a callback list. Out of curiosity, where are you based? I am with a small firm in Columbus.

 

[RBHeadge PE]

Is this applicable for the PE too?!?! Surely we will be allowed to bring in other references...

Yes, this is how the PE CBT exams have been working since 2018. I can't imagine they're going to change things for the CE exams.

The reference manuals can get pretty lengthy. The nuclear reference is over 600 PDF pages plus the other tables and codes that get added on exam day.

 

[MadamPirate PE]

Is this applicable for the PE too?!?! Surely we will be allowed to bring in other references...

Definitely won't be able to. PE Power has all the code books included in the digital references. Those books are pretty hefty.

 

[RBHeadge PE]

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Look at the Passing Rate.... Construction and Structure took a hard hit....

Those are uncharacteristically brutal. IIRC construction usually has a lower pass rate than the other CE exams, but this seems worse than normal.

I am beyond frustrated. How can it take GA a week longer than almost every other state? And they do not even give an estimate of when results will be released

Georgia has been chronically late the last few years. I don't think they've decoupled? So I'm not sure why it's taking so long.

Kind of wild that NCEES has already updated their total numbers without Georgia being released.

That's pretty normal. NCEES usually post the updated pass rates about a week after the initial release. And there are always a few States waiting when it gets posted.

 

[WaterGuyHH]

Those are uncharacteristically brutal. IIRC construction usually has a lower pass rate than the other CE exams, but this seems worse than normal.

Georgia has been chronically late the last few years. I don't think they've decoupled? So I'm not sure why it's taking so long.

That's pretty normal. NCEES usually post the updated pass rates about a week after the initial release. And there are always a few States waiting when it gets posted.

 

[Deep_Freeze26]

Wow! Now all Civil PEs should accept that Structural is the toughest exam
I don’t know about all folks taking Construction exam, but I’ve noticed that people that usually take this exam do not do engineering computations on daily bases because they work in construction management field. This is probably why this exam is pretty tough on them. Would you agree?

I've always heard that the reason the CE Construction is so difficult is the range of topics that can potentially be covered in the exam. I'm not so sure it has to do with lack of engineering computations.

My personal opinion on the CE Structural is that there are a lot of ways to write distractor answers that trip up people, and that's why that pass rate is usually slightly lower.

 

[StrucDesignEIT]

Just for reference, it looks like PE Construction typically hovers around 61% and PE Structural around 64%. Looks like both dropped around 8% while the rest remained the same.






Geotech came up quite a bit from 2020.

 

[rafsan06]

Wow! Now all Civil PEs should accept that Structural is the toughest exam
I don’t know about all folks taking Construction exam, but I’ve noticed that people that usually take this exam do not do engineering computations on daily bases because they work in construction management field. This is probably why this exam is pretty tough on them. Would you agree?

The main reason Construction is hard because on Undergrad Civil Engineering, most programs offer almost nothing related to this area. So, i believe everyone struggles.

 

[WaterGuyHH]

What a joke. No wonder the Secretary of State office made the news last year...

 

[RBHeadge PE]

Georgia has been chronically late the last few years. I don't think they've decoupled? So I'm not sure why it's taking so long.

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Scratch my above comment, it might have something to do with this^

Any other alum from the North Ave Trade School here? What's The Good Word?

 

[steel]

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Look at the Passing Rate.... Construction and Structure took a hard hit....

Any chance they revisit the October exam questions for Structural and Construction because of this?

 

[DrRich PE]

Any chance they revisit the October exam questions for Structural and Construction because of this?

I doubt it. I passed Geotech in October and the passing rate was 55% for first time takers and only 24% for repeat takers.

 

[steel]

I doubt it. I passed Geotech in October and the passing rate was 55% for first time takers and only 24% for repeat takers.

Can anyone offer a reason why they feel the repeat pass rate is so low?
Is it just because there are some people that would likely never pass the exam, and with each exam administration those people make up a higher percentage of the people taking it?