October 2021 Post Exam Wait Period - Welcome to the Suck

[pbrme]

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Interesting. You'd think they'd have offered it in Las Vegas considering the cheap tickets. It's like they said FU to New Mexico, Montana and most of Appalachia.

 

[leggo PE]

Looks like I’ll be going to Reno to test if I ever decide to take the S.E. Exam again….

 

[steel]

LOL, I knew someone would take the bait.
#lazy

LOL. Seriously, Thanks @structurenole15

I have WAYYYYYYY too many maps made in google maps like this. I routinely take the professional sports leagues and rearrange the teams into different conferences and divisions just to see what it would look like lol.

I'm a mapper!

 

[steel]

Looks like I’ll be going to Reno to test if I ever decide to take the S.E. Exam again….

These cities could change with every exam administration, is my thoughts. They may swap Topeka, KS for St. Louis (surprised they didn't this time)

 

[tdeckcox]

I have WAYYYYYYY too many maps made in google maps like this. I routinely take the professional sports leagues and rearrange the teams into different conferences and divisions just to see what it would look like lol.

I'm a mapper!

Are you on reddit, by chance? If so you might like r/mapporn (I'm going to hope keeping the words combined hides it enough that it doesn't offend anybody.)

 

[DoctorWho-PE]

So, I stumbled across this piece today on the NCEES website. It looks like with the SE exam being the only P&P administration left, they're moving to a regional model.

https://ncees.org/news/
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So if someone in say, my city (Pittsburgh) wanted to take it, the closest city offering it is Richmond, VA. That's a 4 hour drive.

Feck a duck I have to go to Chicago.

 

[DoctorWho-PE]

So, I stumbled across this piece today on the NCEES website. It looks like with the SE exam being the only P&P administration left, they're moving to a regional model.

https://ncees.org/news/
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So if someone in say, my city (Pittsburgh) wanted to take it, the closest city offering it is Richmond, VA. That's a 4 hour drive.

My closest exam site has ALWAYS been 3 hours away. And now I'm going to have to go to Chicago.

 

[Be-n]

So, I stumbled across this piece today on the NCEES website. It looks like with the SE exam being the only P&P administration left, they're moving to a regional model.

https://ncees.org/news/
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So if someone in say, my city (Pittsburgh) wanted to take it, the closest city offering it is Richmond, VA. That's a 4 hour drive.

6 hr drive for my location vs 2 hr for the last exam. I really hope I won’t have to do this 6 hr drive
I actually expected this. I tried to ask my board, and got no answer. There is no way they would keep offering SE at the same locations as before in states where they get about 10 exam takers per the entire state.

 

[DoctorWho-PE]

6 hr drive for my location vs 2 hr for the last exam. I really hope I won’t have to do this 6 hr drive
I actually expected this. I tried to ask my board, and got no answer. There is no way they would keep offering SE at the same locations as before in states where they get about 10 exam takers per the entire state.

2-3 people per day is typical in Iowa. So it makes sense, but they couldn't have announced that in October?

 

[steel]

What baffles me is that there are no sites in Oklahoma!

 

[steel]

Are you on reddit, by chance? If so you might like r/mapporn (I'm going to hope keeping the words combined hides it enough that it doesn't offend anybody.)

I'm on reddit but I never remember my username, and the one time when I tried to reset it, it said the username didn't exist!

 

[RBHeadge PE]

With a couple exceptions, the exam locations are skewed toward states that have SE licensure, and thus, higher demand for the exam.

OOC, what jurisdictions have the SE license?
I found an old NCSEA spreadsheet, but with so many subtleties its hard to get a straight answer. Is it Alaska, California, DC, Idaho, Illinois, Massachusetts, Nebraska, Nevada, Oregon, Washington?

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I didn't think Guam licenses SE's. It doesn't look like they do on their website. Anyone know for sure? I wonder if they're offering it there because of the military presence or to allow a closer location for applicants from Asia to test?

So if someone in say, my city (Pittsburgh) wanted to take it, the closest city offering it is Richmond, VA. That's a 4 hour drive.

No way Pittsburg is 4hr from Richmond. I'm DC-metro and its four hours from me just because of traffic.

These cities could change with every exam administration, is my thoughts. They may swap Topeka, KS for St. Louis (surprised they didn't this time)

Maybe, maybe not. Historically they tend to stay at the same locations.

Feck a duck I have to go to Chicago.

Lincoln, NE isn't easier?

 

[steel]

OOC, what jurisdictions have the SE license?
I found an old NCSEA spreadsheet, but with so many subtleties its hard to get a straight answer. Is it Alaska, California, DC, Idaho, Illinois, Massachusetts, Nebraska, Nevada, Oregon, Washington?

No way Pittsburg is 4hr from Richmond. I'm DC-metro and its four hours from me just because of traffic.

Sorry, 6 hours, 10 minutes! But that's also from my house which is southeast of the city. If you live out by the airport, you're making it a 7 hour drive.

 

[steel]

Also, if anyone has any questions or concerns about SE licensure, I sit on the NCSEA structural licensure committee. Our goal is to promote se licensure in each state. We've put together a model a couple years ago for what should and should not be designed by an SE, so state legislatures have a starting point for writing their legislation.

 

[Tiger15]

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Sorry, 6 hours, 10 minutes! But that's also from my house which is southeast of the city. If you live out by the airport, you're making it a 7 hour drive.

I was confused... had to look this up...

 

[DoctorWho-PE]

OOC, what jurisdictions have the SE license?
I found an old NCSEA spreadsheet, but with so many subtleties its hard to get a straight answer. Is it Alaska, California, DC, Idaho, Illinois, Massachusetts, Nebraska, Nevada, Oregon, Washington?



I didn't think Guam licenses SE's. It doesn't look like they do on their website. Anyone know for sure? I wonder if they're offering it there because of the military presence or to allow a closer location for applicants from Asia to test?


No way Pittsburg is 4hr from Richmond. I'm DC-metro and its four hours from me just because of traffic.


Maybe, maybe not. Historically they tend to stay at the same locations.


Lincoln, NE isn't easier?

I'm at the red dot, (ish). The more I have been thinking about it, Lincoln is probably going to be my choice, since Illinois does not make anything easy, and the application date has already passed for April. Helps that I have family near Lincoln. Still a 6+ hour drive though.

 

[Spitfire6532]

Also, if anyone has any questions or concerns about SE licensure, I sit on the NCSEA structural licensure committee. Our goal is to promote se licensure in each state. We've put together a model a couple years ago for what should and should not be designed by an SE, so state legislatures have a starting point for writing their legislation.

Narc.

 

[steel]

I'm at the red dot, (ish). The more I have been thinking about it, Lincoln is probably going to be my choice, since Illinois does not make anything easy, and the application date has already passed for April. Helps that I have family near Lincoln. Still a 6+ hour drive though.
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I believe you would still apply with your state board, regardless of what city you test in. So it seems to me like Chicago would be your best bet, distance-wise.

 

[steel]

Narc.

Guess I hit a sore spot? lol

 

[Be-n]

Also, if anyone has any questions or concerns about SE licensure, I sit on the NCSEA structural licensure committee. Our goal is to promote se licensure in each state. We've put together a model a couple years ago for what should and should not be designed by an SE, so state legislatures have a starting point for writing their legislation.

I really hope SE licensure will be gradually recognized and promoted in most states within a next decade. I even thought some structural engineers may prefer SE exam over CBT PE Civil exam in the next couple of years just because they can bring their own references to an SE exam.
However, making people drive 6+ hours to an exam site doesn’t make any good for the promotion of SE licensure. States can’t require something that is not even offered in their state.