Nutrition, Diet, and Exercise: Notes, Goals, and Resources (these people just keep talking about crossfit)

[Road Guy]

Tyson seems to keep finding ways to get there plants shut down ( my FIL used to manage their operation in Wilkseboro, NC, he keeps tabs on them and sounds like the path to hell is paved with good intentions (like  "hey lets just pick everyone up on a bus so they can get to work?")

The "fittest" guy in our gym was back today, said he didn't do anything but mountain bike during the 2 month shut down, he still smoked me by well over 2 minutes on today's workout  - When I joined the 5 AM club, that group is way fitter than I was and I think that was a big help in me kicking it up a notch.  looking to get back to that!

I didnt realize how much a little strength training can do - I have enjoyed getting back into it ( just slowly) 

 

[LyceeFruit PE]

Tyson seems to keep finding ways to get there plants shut down ( my FIL used to manage their operation in Wilkseboro, NC, he keeps tabs on them and sounds like the path to hell is paved with good intentions (like  "hey lets just pick everyone up on a bus so they can get to work?")

yeah thats happened to the plants here....

I think the most devastating part of COVID as it relates to my health is the lack of chicken thigh availability in the stores...

i've been going to the crappier grocery store (it has less variety in general so less people go there which is why i've primarily gone there during this time) and they've been a complete crapshoot on being able to get any meat. extra large packs of 80% ground beef. i got cut up chicken parts in a bag (which was weird) and then weeks later when they had chicken again, it was chicken thighs in a bag 

 

[squaretaper LIT AF PE]

we (and when I say we, I do mean, the wife wanted to do this and I was voluntold) were trying to do the 800 gram challenge (RD developed) - https://optimizemenutrition.com/800-gram-challenge/  but its like a full time job just stocking up on the fruits / vegetables...

Been off this thread for a little while. But please share my thanks with LadyRG for this. I had already been kinda/sorta doing my version of this (basically, just starting with a YUUGE portion of veg at the beginning of the meal but not measuring), it was very handy to have an actual number as a goal to measure up to.

So, over the course of almost 2 weeks I've been stuffing my face with veg before EVERY meal (but I mix it up with the type of veg, it's really not bad at all plus I already really like veg) and since I have to go to the office nearly every day I walk across the street on my breaks to pick up a bag of you-name-it veg and bring it home so acquiring veg isn't as much of a headache as it could be. Results are good! I'm pretty close to my goal weight so the last 5-10 lbf are pretty tough (esp without bike commuting, thanks Rona).

I still eat whatever I want but only after the veg portion and it has really helped curb what would otherwise have been a larger-than-necessary portion of whatever the entree was. As long as my fresh grocery supply stays convenient, this isn't that hard to do. Thanks LadyRG!

 

[squaretaper LIT AF PE]

I want to try intermittent fasting

This has been effective for me, just a tiny bit tricky to integrate 100% consistently since almost every day for me is actually a little different with respect to work schedule. I mix it up between 16/8 and 24-hour fasting (<--I like this one best, actually! easier to keep track and I don't generally get "hangry" [more, like, h-sleepy] so IM is not hard, like, at all, iono, YMMV). My vote is for 24-hours two days a week but of course do what feels acceptable to yer tummy. And to be honest, of course I lovvveeee food, but the convenience factor is a yuuge draw for this approach to reducing overall calories.

my ankles are fucked up

Ouchie. Bum ankles AND knees?? Gahhh! We should start a "crap knees" thread and gripe like crusty Slavic/Chinese elders. "Knees are acting up, storm's coming..."

 

[squaretaper LIT AF PE]

didn't do anything but mountain bike during the 2 month shut down

I WOULD LOVE THIS I MISS MY MTB AND THE AMAZING LOCAL TRAILS

....but I'm also super, super, super grateful to have a union job and protected income.

 

[JayKay PE]

This has been effective for me, just a tiny bit tricky to integrate 100% consistently since almost every day for me is actually a little different with respect to work schedule. I mix it up between 16/8 and 24-hour fasting (<--I like this one best, actually! easier to keep track and I don't generally get "hangry" [more, like, h-sleepy] so IM is not hard, like, at all, iono, YMMV). My vote is for 24-hours two days a week but of course do what feels acceptable to yer tummy. And to be honest, of course I lovvveeee food, but the convenience factor is a yuuge draw for this approach to reducing overall calories.

Ouchie. Bum ankles AND knees?? Gahhh! We should start a "crap knees" thread and gripe like crusty Slavic/Chinese elders. "Knees are acting up, storm's coming..."

I might try 24-hour fasting, since this is something I feel would be easier for me.  Are there any specific days you aim for?  And I agree that I should maybe slowly get myself into it, but I feel like if I try and attempt the 16/8 fasting I would just keep shifting the hours instead of just doing a straight 24-hours.

As for bum ankles/knees...It's what happens when you start horseback riding at a young age and work with OTTBs.  They've been trained to hug the wall...and jockeys usually don't have their leg in the way.  Regular riders do.

 

[squaretaper LIT AF PE]

I feel like if I try and attempt the 16/8 fasting I would just keep shifting the hours instead of just doing a straight 24-hours

Exactly!

OT: I just pick whatever two non-consecutive days in the coming week that I know will work for me/be most convenient. And...that's pretty much it. Eat dinner at 18:00-19:00ish and uh...then do nothing. So E-Z! :rotflmao:

(And it's only "E-Z" because it's  beenscheduled and I know it's coming so it's a fun challenge, iono, mind games)

 

[squaretaper LIT AF PE]

@JayKay PE purely by coincidence, I think that's how Jimmy Kimmel does/did it?

 

[JayKay PE]

@JayKay PE purely by coincidence, I think that's how Jimmy Kimmel does/did it?

I'm not doing the Jimmy Kimmel diet, I'm doing the JK diet.  Which are totes different things (they're not).

I'm going to attempt a 24-hour starting last night at 8pm.  This might actually help me since my stomach felt really gross yesterday.  Tonight I'll do butter chicken for dinner.

TBH, I might start attempting the 16/8 fast more often during the week/etc.  I've found I do a lot of snacking in the morning at work before lunch, and it'd make more sense to me to not eat from 8pm to 12pm the following day.

It is going to suck to drink hot tea without sugar, but I'll be fine.  I mostly drank that to keep my sugars fairly stable during the day.  

 

[csb]

JayKay is Jimmy Kimmel?!

I was on such a good year plus run with diet and this threw me totally off. Not getting into the grocery store and being able to buy three pounds of chicken at once completely threw me. I am slowly getting back into it. 

I was all happy to pull 80 pounds for a deadlift this morning (all that would fit on the home bar) and then I looked to see that my 75% in March was 100 lbs and I miss real weights. 

 

[JayKay PE]

I finished my first fast!  Made it to 22 hours and then I failed because the weather was crap for walking outside/getting out of my apartment and I made rice in the rice cooker (and the smell was like, 'you're not fasting after this, boy-o').  It kinda got rough at around 2pmish, but stomach was calmed by more water.  I think I'm going to try and do a 24-hour fast once a week?  Seems to help my stomach settle from some of the crap it's been having, plus I slept better tonight.

@csb, I am totes Jimmy Kimmel.  You've caught me.

 

[Master slacker]

I'm down a total of 14 pounds now.  First week 7, second week 5, third week 2.  Hmmm...  Somethings amiss about this last week.  These pounds came between saturday morning and this morning.  I'll be double checking this tomorrow.

 

[csb]

Like you're not believing you only lost two pounds? 

 

[Master slacker]

weeeeeelllllllll, i'm thinking i may have lost a little more today...  we'll see...

 

[csb]

Remind me- did you start at 400 pounds? 

 

[Master slacker]

An additional 1.5 pounds from yesterday.  That makes a little more sense: 7 - 5 - 3.5.  Looks like my strategy of initially losing fat is working / worked, but now it's getting less productive.  Yesterday afternoon I was on the trampoline and got really fatigued and a little light headed.  Guess it's time to increase carb intake.  

 

[csb]

1. That 7 was probably a lot of water weight. 

2. What's your maintenance plan after this? 

 

[ChebyshevII PE PMP]

I'm down a total of 14 pounds now.  First week 7, second week 5, third week 2.  Hmmm...  Somethings amiss about this last week.  These pounds came between saturday morning and this morning.  I'll be double checking this tomorrow.

Plateaus have been somewhat normal for me, too. I’ve been at this since December, and there have been weeks where I haven’t lost any weight.

Are you varying your routine enough? If you are doing the same thing day after day after day, it’s possible your body is adjusting and getting used to the new normal. I fix that by eating more for a few days when I’m in a plateau, then going back to my weight loss plan.

 

[JayKay PE]

weeeeeelllllllll, i'm thinking i may have lost a little more today...  we'll see...

I saw this and literally was like, "Bathroom.  Number 2.  I know what you're trying to do."

Like when my dad would be like, "I lost 20 lbs!" after he'd finish in the bathroom.

 

[Master slacker]

I haven't done any resistance training yet, only "eat less, move more".  My running has gotten a lot better.  I can "run" 5 miles without walking now.  Granted my knees still feel like someone's sticking a screwdriver in them for the first 1/4 mile or so.  And dietitians would likely say my eating plan is unhealthy (and it probably is), but I wanted to shed weight fast to help my knees / running.