National Society of Professional Engineers

[humner]

This goes back to what I was talking about in an earlier post. Personally I am not an engineer, I have passed the FE and am taking the PE again. But I think the states should have a real breakdown on what an engineer is and who can call themselves one.

 

[Kephart P.E.]

so he must have at least passed the FE exam to even be welcomed into this society. Taking liberties with the joint membership they accept.
Or he just doen't really understand the difference and doesn't want to see the light.

No to the first statement. He has not passed the EIT (or FE).

He understands the difference. He does not give a darn. So far it has worked for him.

I would tend to agree with you DK, except where he might endanger the public or screw up something for the company you both work for.

Other than those 2 instances, leave him to his delusion.

 

[Kephart P.E.]

I would suggest taking the high road and letting it go. I'm a firm believer in picking your battles, winning the battles you pick, and making sure that winning is worth the consequences. Basically, make sure the juice is worth the squeeze. In this case, for me, it wouldn't be worth it.

Amen to that!!!!

I dont think that is really the high road. What the boss is doing is technically illegal.

It is not illegal but shows lack of integrity and principles. Any engineer knows what a PE is and what are the necessary steps to get there.

From everything DK has told us about his boss, doing that would do nothing other than make DKs work life more miserable.

And you are right Snick. I am already misserable and hopeless. I have nothing to win out of this and my job to loose. I have been thrown to a corner and as an engineer right now I am finished. But I have bills to pay and he is the Golden Boy of management(because he is a PAK). He has no engineering background or formation. But he can talk in such a way that gives you the impression he knows what he is saying until you ask him to clarify a point. Then you realized that it is a well learned script and nothing else...just empty words. He has no clue what he is saying.

Ahhh one of those folks who is immune to reason. You have to wonder how people like that get the jobs they have.

I have asked the same question several times. How did he get where he is? It is incredible but looking at how things are in upper management here it makes sense. It only takes one idiot with initiative to reach the top. Once he/she is there it goes Soouth in a hurry. That person will be sure not to hire somebody better than him and we all know that shit flows downward. Then the field personell have to work miracles to make things work and meet the goals. I tried to fix that attacking the problem in the design group. What a huge mistake. I messed with the wrong marine. Did not work well for me. As a result of that most of my responsabilities were taken away. I do not perform even a 10% of my job description. Now I am not dangerous for them.

The philosophy here is that managers, supervisors, and lead engineers do not need to have knowledge. They just have to be good communicators (sic). They hide behind diversity and safety initiatives to cloud the fact that they are uncapable of perform a job becuase they know a rat ass about it. But they have meetings everyday, they go to lunch together and cover their six. Things will hopefuly will change whenever their big boss leaves :holyness: In the meantime I am still here. That means more time to post at EB.

I was once in a similar position, I took the tact of recommending my boss for all sort of projects and he had far too big a head to turn any down. Then once he had made a large mess of them, they had to have myself and another engineer clean up the mess. Luckily the engineering group was small enough I could block his efforts to have others "fix" his mess.

Just keep giving him rope and don't allow him to hide all the failures.

 

[DVINNY]

Sounds like a classic case of PE-ness envy.

and your boss has it.

 

[Dark Knight]

Sounds like a classic case of PE-ness envy.
and your boss has it.

Not a chance. How can he be envious(spelling check please)? He is a member of a National Society of Professional Engineers since 2000 :appl: , and also member of more than 5 socio-professional organizations like Toastmasters. :true:

He is not an EIT but...What?

He is all the other things. B) I am just an insignificant engineer under his supervision.

By the way; He sent me a procedure he revised so I can revise his revision(redundant...isn't it?). It is incredible how many cosmetics changes he made to the document and how many technical points he missed. I wrote him an e-mail with 4 paragraphs explaining where and why changes are needed. It would not be that bad but the procedure has 17 pages with 15 of them being copied definitions. A page and a half with technical stuff and he missed more than 75% of what he should have corrected. :th_rockon:

I wonder if he knows what NCEES is.

 

[Capt Worley PE]

I wonder if he knows what NCEES is.

Isn't it the brand name of a mechanical pencil?

 

[Sschell]

^that made me laugh so hard that I farted.

It stinks.

I'm leaving.

 

[Capt Worley PE]

^Wow! I accomplished even more than I set out to!!!