It's Friday!!!!

[MA_PE]

Exactly my point. If you don't like Catholics then don't bother trying to participate in their religion.
FWIW, they don't defend pedophilia per se they just don't expose it within their organization.

I never said I disliked Catholics.

My post was pretty much directed at Bean.

You may like Catholics but you obviously don't care much for their faith. So implicitly you did say "I don't like Catholic." (no plural)

 

[Chucktown PE]

I'm not Catholic, that doesn't mean I don't like Catholic, it just means I relate better to another doctrine.

 

[MA_PE]

My brother's second child is having a baptism in a Catholic church this weekend. He and his wife wanted me and my wife to be god parents. But since we were once Catholic and are now Methodist, the priest deemed us as not good role models and would not allow us to be god parents.
So what should I do in the church to show how much of a bad role model I would be?

Oh dear, I'll have to give this some thought.

In all seriousness, that's absolutely ridiculous that the priest wouldn't let you be a god parent. I guess he's still pissed off about that whole reformation thing.

Not for anything but the point of having a Catholic baptism is to baptize the baby into the Catholic faith and to swear to raise the baby as a Catholic. In the event that something happens to the parents, it is the godparent's responsibility to raise the baby catholic. I can see why a priest would not like having people who have opted out of Catholicism as godparents and even how he could view the individuals as not good Catholic role models. Heck they renounced the faith.

If you're equating godparents with "legal guardians" then take the Catholic church out of the picture and don't baptize the baby and instead just have them legally declared as guardians.

Sorry, but I find this as annoying as people people who don't go to church or partcipate in any of the Church's rituals (not go to Mass on holy days pf obligation, etc.) yet they HAVE to have a Church wedding.

IMO, the rejection for godparents has NOTHING to do with whether they are good people, just that they are not practicing catholics (so why would they raise the baby catholic).

/end rant/

Sorry MA, didn't mean to piss in the proverbial holy water. What I should have said was what Paul said and that my issue was with a priest saying 'since they were once Catholic and are now Methodist they are not good role models and can't be god parents'. If he had said, 'they aren't Catholic so the church will not allow them to be the godparents' that would be one thing, but to say they wouldn't be good role models due to becoming protestant is ridiculous. And if it were me I'd a been some kind of irritated. FWIW, I grew up Presbyterian and now go to a Baptist Church, not affiliated with the Southern Baptist convention. We had one kid baptised in the Methodist church in Atlanta, then the other kids was baptised in a Presbyterian church here. Since then we started going to the Baptist church and they don't believe in infant baptistm, nor do they recognize mine or my wife's infant baptism. In order to join the church we have to be rebaptised, which I'm not quite sure about still. But if we do join this church and then have another kid they won't be getting baptised.

Like I said, if you're equating "god parent" with "legal guardian" and "role model" with overall character, you're reading into it too deeply. You want to use a church ritual, I don't care what faith, you need to play by the rules. I'd wager that no church of any denomination would formally endorse the appointment of an individual that did not believe in their faith as a guardian for an infant. done.

 

[Dexman PE]

Along the lines of MA_PE's point, if you are Jewish and want to marry a woman of non-Jewish faith with a traditional Jewish wedding, she needs to convert. They're not saying she's a bad person, it's all about playing by the rules.

 

[MA_PE]

I'm not Catholic, that doesn't mean I don't like Catholic, it just means I relate better to another doctrine.

you don't like it enough to join. "don't like" is not equal to "hate."

It's called tolerance.

 

[MA_PE]

Along the lines of MA_PE's point, if you are Jewish and want to marry a woman of non-Jewish faith with a traditional Jewish wedding, she needs to convert. They're not saying she's a bad person, it's all about playing by the rules.

bingo SW+100

 

[Dleg]

I married a Catholic and I'm not. The church decided that because I was raised Episcopalian (I had to answer whether it was the "high church"" or the "low church" - which I was unaware of. Note to future non-Catholic grooms to be: "high church" is the correct answer.), that was close enough as long as I attended the marriage classes (10 nights?) and confessed my sins to a priest. They let us have a church wedding after all of that. I never had to "convert" though.

 

[Capt Worley PE]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you can marry in a Mormon church unless you convert. Like MA said, you gotta play by the churches rules if you want a church wedding.

<--not married in a church

 

[Chucktown PE]

Agree you have to play by the rules, but you don't have to be catholic to be a good role model. Which is what the priest told Paul and what started this to begin with.

 

[Ble_PE]

I'm married to a Catholic and I grew up a Baptist. We got married in the courthouse first and then went to Peru a year later to get married in a church. We had a traditional Catholic wedding but I didn't have to convert or anything. We had to go to marriage classes at a local Catholic Church and they had to have proof that I had been baptized.

As far as Godparents go, when my nephew was baptized his mom wanted my wife and I to be the Godparents. I couldn't technically be the godfather since I wasn't Catholic, but the priest let me participate in the ceremony as if I were. The only difference is that I'm not listed on his baptism certificate as his godfather.

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you can marry in a Mormon church unless you convert. Like MA said, you gotta play by the churches rules if you want a church wedding.
<--not married in a church

That is true, I don't think you are even allowed in one of their big temples if you aren't a member. My MIL's family in hardcore Mormon (the MIL renounced this later in life) and she couldn't get married to my FIL in a Mormon church.

<-- married by a judge

 

[Capt Worley PE]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you can marry in a Mormon church unless you convert. Like MA said, you gotta play by the churches rules if you want a church wedding.
<--not married in a church

That is true, I don't think you are even allowed in one of their big temples if you aren't a member. My MIL's family in hardcore Mormon (the MIL renounced this later in life) and she couldn't get married to my FIL in a Mormon church.

<-- married by a judge

They built a Mormon church in Hopkins SC a few years back. For a small town (not even really a town) they have a goodly number of Mormons. Because non-Mormons aren't allowed in, they gave tours of the church before it was consecrated, or whatever the ceremony is called to bless a church. My parents went and said it was a pretty impressive facility.

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

Mormonism isn't a real big religion in the Northeast. You don't see too many churches, but do get the occasional door to door missionaries.

 

[Wolverine]

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[MA_PE]

^ nice job W!!!

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

Let's get fucked up?

 

[Paul S]

It is Friday, and I will not be involved with another religious issue this weekend!!!

 

[Ble_PE]

TGIF, but I just wish it wasn't going to be so hot this weekend. They are calling for highs in the mid 90s, so it's going to be fun working in the yard tomorrow!

 

[Supe]

Going home this afternoon, picking up junior, and firing up the welder. Need to adapt my old transmission crossmember to work with the new transmission.

 

[Ble_PE]

I'm glad this is a long weekend because after the day I've had I'm gonna need it.