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Does Mike work for the Florida Board? :wtf:
Nah. Believe it or not, I was reading this thread the other day and I saw what you were planning on doing and I just thought I would offer the wisdom of a gray hair old man. :true:Does Mike work for the Florida Board? :wtf:
I think it is different. In your scenario, Joe PM probably wrote the proposal, was at the kickoff meeting, and has a much better chance of knowing what went on during the day-to-day design than someone who picks up a set of plans and calcs at the end and checks them. IMHO.it doesnt sound any different than if a the PM stamps work that was done under his supervision by another person. like at any different company in the US.
Joe PM supervises a project, does very little work on it(other than budget)
John - Senior Projeect Engineer does 50% of the work & 95 % of QA/QC
Jack the Intern does the remaining 50% of work
Joe stamps it. Just because they all work at the same company doesnt mean that Joe really reviews it any more than if it was two people collaborating together to make some money.
I totally want to sign off on a set of Death Star plans.Kind of like Obi Wan and Luke Skywalker.....
Yeah, that's exactly what I said and there is absolutely no difference between Joe Engineer stamping a retaining wall design and Federal Government passing a law..... Please......I see, so in order for the prez to sign an executive bill into law, he must first consider if he has truly been involved with all of the considerations?
You are correct. This is how it is supposed to work. This; however, is not germane to the conversation because we are talking about having no involvement in the project (no delegating, no day-to-day review), just reviewing and stamping drawings at the end without possibly even ever hearing about the project until that point.Let's be real. How is a measely little P.E. ever going to make a $ if he works with his tail between his legs. A real leader is always accountable. Yet that certainly doesn't mean he doesn't delegate assignments based on his own professional judgment of individual team members skills. Even then, he reviews the delegated work with quality assurance and control measures.
Have absolutely no idea what your point is here.Some engineers are control freaks. That's fine. But if you want to make any money, you might someday realize there are other talented people in this world who can assist with your goals.
With this attitude, I'm sure you will go far! Good luck with that.......The more you can stamp, the more you can make. So get busy stamping and get off that high horse of feeling like making money is unethical. This is still america, land of opportunity. Stamp , Sign & Seal those plans once your sure the plans are accurate. Unless you want to continue being a troll working for the big dog. Remember this, the big dog was once a small pup. You have to decide if your cut out to be a big dog or just another mut in the kennel.
Hahaha, I love That 70's Show! Quality reference."Look. It's about the rules. And without the rules we might as well all be up in a tree flinging our crap at each other." - Red Forman
Thanks heidenAR....and :violin: to the FB. Maybe some of us will get them tomorrow? Man, that would be sweet.Just got an e-mail from FBPR and the "packets" were mailed out yesterday (8/16) and this morning. Later.
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