2010 Camaro ordering info

[Capt Worley PE]

Yeah, hold out for the stick. You wait a year, they'll probably have a couple of grand on the hood.

 

[MA_PE]

It just keeps getting worse. That just might be one of the ugliest gauge clusters I've ever seen.

I believe the gage cluster is supposed to be an updated version of the original '67 - 69 cluster.

as far as the stick goes, if it's a daily driver I'd go auto (oh shut up you guys, I'm old), you can still bang through the gears if you want but you don't have to.

and thank god there's a way to significantly improve the looks of that thing.

Phoenix

 

[Capt Worley PE]

I believe the gage cluster is supposed to be an updated version of the original '67 - 69 cluster.

It's the 69, which was a pretty crappy design. The 67-68 IP was a much cleaner design and looked a lot like the 65-69 'vair IP.

and thank god there's a way to significantly improve the looks of that thing.Phoenix

Oh, good Lord, no.

 

[Master slacker]

Oh, good Lord, no.

+1 uke:

I think the Camaro is an awesome looking car. The fact that it's not a blatant retro design is the best part. It's shorter than its counterparts. It's lighter than its counterparts. And it's engine has aftermarket a-plenty to make its hp stupid large. The only thing I don't like about it is its rear axle.

 

[MA_PE]

How can you say it isn't a blatent retro design? It's as close as the challenger and/or mustang to their respective predecessors. FWIW I think the concept T/A is a nice looker. It remains to be seen what the product looks like in the flesh.

 

[Capt Worley PE]

I saw a Camaro on the street, and as much as I hate to say it, it looks silly. I think the Mustange looks the best (the '10 lookes great in the flesh, not so much in pictures), but for my money I'd probably go Challenger because of the extra room.

Of the three, the base Camaro is the best bang for the buck. The base steelies should be painted argent, though.

 

[Master slacker]

How can you say it isn't a blatent retro design? It's as close as the challenger and/or mustang to their respective predecessors. FWIW I think the concept T/A is a nice looker. It remains to be seen what the product looks like in the flesh.

:huh:

What retro Camaro are you talking about? And I'm talking exterior, not interior.

 

[Capt Worley PE]

The new Camaro shares numerous styling cues with the 1969 Camaro.

 

[z06dustin]

I just did a 400mi cruise with some cars, a 5th gen Camaro being one of them. The car is gorgeous, I will have to admit. It sits really high and is a bit of a tank but other than that, really dig the looks.

We were near a local college, and a car load of 4 (very) good looking girls rolled up. The one in the back yelled "your car is so sexy" to my friend, the Camaro driver. My Z06 was sitting right next to it, and got absolutely zero love. Love it or hate it, it's a crowd pleaser right now.

*Sigh*
People will buy it just because its a Camaro.

Unfortunately, that's the only reason to buy it.

Um... seriously? 422hp for $30k does nothing for you? You must not be much of a car guy.

IMHO, too little too late answer to the current Ford Mustang. Good to see the F-body return, but they should make a Firebird, also. GM (Pontiac) blew it with the GTO as well.

http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2009/0...ang_for_se.html

Look I'm no GM fanboi, they could have done things better for sure (like having it sit like a sports car, instead of the 60's WAY UP IN THE AIR thing, weigh less than my truck, etc) but the Camaro, the (now dead) G8, the CTS-V, Z06, ZR1, shoot even the 260hp Sky/Solstice all are damn good cars. These are the golden days of highperformance. You've never been able to buy such a fast car for so little.

 

[Kephart P.E.]

I just did a 400mi cruise with some cars, a 5th gen Camaro being one of them. The car is gorgeous, I will have to admit. It sits really high and is a bit of a tank but other than that, really dig the looks.
We were near a local college, and a car load of 4 (very) good looking girls rolled up. The one in the back yelled "your car is so sexy" to my friend, the Camaro driver. My Z06 was sitting right next to it, and got absolutely zero love. Love it or hate it, it's a crowd pleaser right now.

Um... seriously? 422hp for $30k does nothing for you? You must not be much of a car guy.

http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2009/0...ang_for_se.html

Look I'm no GM fanboi, they could have done things better for sure (like having it sit like a sports car, instead of the 60's WAY UP IN THE AIR thing, weigh less than my truck, etc) but the Camaro, the (now dead) G8, the CTS-V, Z06, ZR1, shoot even the 260hp Sky/Solstice all are damn good cars. These are the golden days of highperformance. You've never been able to buy such a fast car for so little.

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That is why I bought my Trailblazer SS. 400 ft/lbs of torque, All Wheel Drive SUV for $26k. Too good to pass up. I plan on owning it for a long time I don't thing GM will be able to produce many 17 mpg vehicles in the near future.

 

[Capt Worley PE]

The Trailblazer SS is one of those seriously overlooked vehicles. I love them and hope to pick up a used one in a few years.

Do they come with Stabilitrak? The topheaviness of SUVs scares me a bit.

 

[MA_PE]

:huh:
What retro Camaro are you talking about? And I'm talking exterior, not interior.

judge for yourself:

 

[Capt Worley PE]

The proportions on first gen F-bodies are just about perfect.

 

[Supe]

Um... seriously? 422hp for $30k does nothing for you? You must not be much of a car guy.

Not with that styling and at that weight it doesn't.

But yeah, I'm not much of a car guy. Never mind the fact that I was a chassis fabricator before getting into welding engineering, or the Firebird in my driveway, or the 18 degree nitrous motor in my wagon, or my Cutlass that's getting the 25.5 spec chassis.

I'm sorry, but one of my cars makes 450 hp at 3600#, and the other makes 1200+ at 2850#, so just flashing 422hp at X price tag does nothing for me. Of all the routes and styling possibilities they had with this car, as far as I'm concerned, they picked the worst possible one. I'm sure some people will love the car and love the looks, I'm not one of them, regardless of the price point.

With the exception of the Sky/Solstice, I'd take any of the other GM vehicles you mentioned over the new Camaro in a heartbeat, including a used last gen GTO.

 

[Dexman1349]

With the exception of the Sky/Solstice, I'd take any of the other GM vehicles you mentioned over the new Camaro in a heartbeat, including a used last gen GTO.

I'm really a big fan of the GTO's 4-door counterpart/replacement, the G8. Not quite as powerful as the Camaro, but a 361 hp engine in a $30k car that has a useable backseat is ideal for those of us who like to DRIVE and still be able to haul the family... Plus the fact it can still turn 24mpg's under highway conditions (most of my commute is highway).

 

[Capt Worley PE]

^The 300C and Charger R/T fit that bill, too, Dex.

 

[Master slacker]

judge for yourself:

Front:

Cues, yes. Copy or "blatant retro design", no.

Rear:

Mmmmm, no.

 

[z06dustin]

I'm sorry, but one of my cars makes 450 hp at 3600#, and the other makes 1200+ at 2850#, so just flashing 422hp at X price tag does nothing for me. Of all the routes and styling possibilities they had with this car, as far as I'm concerned, they picked the worst possible one. I'm sure some people will love the car and love the looks, I'm not one of them, regardless of the price point.

Man, 3600lbs? What a tank. Sounds like you need to get something with more fiberglass.

I've got a car with decent hp and weight as well. *shrug* Just because a car is slower than what I drive, doesn't mean I can't appreciate it. The fact that it's cheap and quick (0-60 in 4.9 seconds, 1/4 mi in 13.4sec) looks good (in the public eye, you may not like it but tons of other people do) and is selling well is astounding. Especially for GM right now.

Is it slower than mine? Yeah. But it's still a solid performing car, for cheap, and the more of those we have in America the better. :bananapowerslide:

 

[Capt Worley PE]

I'm all for cheap American muscle.

 

[Kephart P.E.]

The Trailblazer SS is one of those seriously overlooked vehicles. I love them and hope to pick up a used one in a few years.
Do they come with Stabilitrak? The topheaviness of SUVs scares me a bit.

Yes they do, the SS also sits lower than the standard and has Bilstein Shocks, 20" low profile tires, the topheaviness has not been an issue.

My truck is real stable in the twisties and my 180 lb. dog has room to stretch out.