+1 that is what I looked up this morningdana,
Look at the 6th Ed GDHS pages 2-79 - 2-80; the 2009 MUTCD pages 497 - 498 and 529; and the HCM2010 page 4-24.
While there is a lot of information on these pages, with depending variables, and even some apparently conflicting values, what I gather from reading these pages is the average pedestrian walking speed for an open sidewalk/walkway is 5.0 ft/s and the average walking speed for street crossing is 3.5 ft/s.
Is that what you see too?
Thanks for your answer, I read those pages and I agree with you, 3.5 ft/sec but I just did school of pe classes and the professor told us to use 4 ft/ sec, I am not sure, there is a lot of different speeds and I dont want lo loose that point, I am pretty sure that we will have a pedestrian question in the test, Is there another source to find out this info?dana,
Look at the 6th Ed GDHS pages 2-79 - 2-80; the 2009 MUTCD pages 497 - 498 and 529; and the HCM2010 page 4-24.
While there is a lot of information on these pages, with depending variables, and even some apparently conflicting values, what I gather from reading these pages is the average pedestrian walking speed for an open sidewalk/walkway is 5.0 ft/s and the average walking speed for street crossing is 3.5 ft/s.
Is that what you see too?
Thanks for your answer, I read those pages and I agree with you, 3.5 ft/sec but I just did school of pe classes and the professor told us to use 4 ft/ sec, I am not sure, there is a lot of different speeds and I dont want lo loose that point, I am pretty sure that we will have a pedestrian question in the test, Is there another source to find out this info?dana,
Look at the 6th Ed GDHS pages 2-79 - 2-80; the 2009 MUTCD pages 497 - 498 and 529; and the HCM2010 page 4-24.
While there is a lot of information on these pages, with depending variables, and even some apparently conflicting values, what I gather from reading these pages is the average pedestrian walking speed for an open sidewalk/walkway is 5.0 ft/s and the average walking speed for street crossing is 3.5 ft/s.
Is that what you see too?
Checked the previous editions (2003 MUTCD, the 5th Ed GDHS and the 2000HCM) and all state 4.0fps. So, that's where the 4.0fps came from.
Per our conversation above, we now know the new value for average pedestrian walking speed is 3.5fps (2009 MUTCD, 6th Ed GDHS, 2010HCM).
Now I am more confused than I was during the class. It appears to me that when you are trying to find the Pedestrian Service Time you want to use the 4 ft/s, as that is what is listed in the HCM for this type of problem. I do see in the MUTCD and HCM though in other places that it appears the standard is 3.5ft/s. So I guess I will use that in other places, but if I am figuring Pedestrian Service Time, I am still using 4 ft/s I think.
On a side note in the HCM. What is the number in parentheses showing, a reference? For example, pg 18-67, at the end of the paragraph that starts under D. Compute Pedestrian Service Time is the number 29 in parentheses (29). Is this referencing something?
I agree. Thanks.We can calculate two sets and see what matches the given choices, in case the walking speed is not specified in the question
HCM 2010 is the most confusing manual by TRB I have ever seen.
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