Nutrition, Diet, and Exercise: Notes, Goals, and Resources (these people just keep talking about crossfit)

[Supe]

 

[Road Guy]

 

[Road Guy]

So did the CycleBar class with the wife last night

I am not sure how anyone could do this more than once a week - last time we did it as a group from our gym and had a much less "pumped" instructor & we all sort of didnt really follow the class structure.

This time I was the only dude, the only person not wearing yoga pants and a sports bra only - I also think I was the only person drenched in total sweat - so in typical XF fashion once the t shirt was drenched I took it off, to a few cheers (laughingly) from the other class members and a look of pissed off annoyance from the wife.  

This instructor was totally into this and it looked crazy, she was screaming with a headset on and it made it hard to hear, I tried to follow along..

The good thing is that the room was 64 degrees and dark. But I dont get all the biking plus try and do push ups and dancing on the bike, every time I tried I kept getting unclipped from my pedals and nearly fell off the bike - so I just cranked the resistance down and "biked" - I was up near the top of the score board because I think it tracks watts or something.. The legs were pretty sore afterward but I never felt "winded" like doing 30 Thrusters or something..

After class the instructor came over and said "lots of guys that do this class just bike and you dont have to try and do the "dance moves" - gee thanks!... must have been obvious

The things you do to try and make a marriage work

 

[Orchid PE]

I can't walk past a cycle bar without thinking about the office...

 

[Road Guy]

I didnt mind it when it was a group of people I knew (from my "box") - but seeing the rest of the class take it super serious I kept thinking to myself, hands down this is the dumbest form of exercise I have ever done -

& once in the military we had to low crawl across the length of a football field after a rain, in South Ga, in August, while being told bad things about us by our drill sgts..

But we just dong this once a week to take a break from the aerobic wednesday workouts at our gym, which has no AC and we have to wear a mask..

I dont want to rat them out but they are letting people take off the mask once you are 'clipped in' - which seems to me to be against the State Mask Order that says they are mandatory in public indoor spaces- but I am not a Rat..

 

[leggo PE]

I didnt mind it when it was a group of people I knew (from my "box") - but seeing the rest of the class take it super serious I kept thinking to myself, hands down this is the dumbest form of exercise I have ever done

You clearly have never tried Zumba...

 

[JayKay PE]

@Chattaneer PE, that is literally how I imagined RG.  Taking over the class and everyone going along with it.

 

[JayKay PE]

Hahahahaha, I've actually been told that I point my toes out too far/go almost into a pirouette when I sumo...which is obviously very incorrect.  I really just like sumo because I can squat deep and go for it.  Another thing I tend to do 'wrong' is I actually bend/squat too deep on some exercises where you're not supposed to squat?

 

[JayKay PE]

(Also, sorry to keep spamming the thread, I enjoy trying to make sense of working out even though I am horrible at it)

 

[squaretaper LIT AF PE]

If you don't like them, I will sumo deadlift for you!!!

FIFY

On topic: due to crazy smoky air from the wildfires (~1200 ft visibility at the 'mo), this is the first day I haven't been able run outside with the doggos so I was on the treadmill. Not sure if the treadmill is messing with my gait or if I just have a stupid gait regardless but now things are hurting. Weird!

 

[Road Guy]

We do a decent amount of sumo for weightlifting- usually banded, which is annoying, and then lots of dead lifts in a workout. I know gym bros like to rag on the sumo but I am sure it has its place, I mean its better than a leg press machine right?

What I cant stand is the sumo dead lift high pull movement, If I see that in the mix I will make sure to go slightly lighter if I can get away with it, that movement just annoys me, its like a backwards wall ball//

 

[Orchid PE]

Better than a Smith machine.

 

[Orchid PE]

Just started the 20 rep squat routine today. There's absolutely no way I'll be able to do "my previous 5RM for a set of 20 after 6 weeks." I think most guys that can do this are just bodybuilders and don't lift very heavy. Probably doesn't work with powerlifters. I'm still interested to see how far I'll get.

 

[JayKay PE]

Hahahahahaha, I mentioned sumo deadlift and that's what we did on Friday.  Never sure how to record the weight, but I used a women's bar + 35kg+20lbs on each end?  So a total sumo lift of around 225lbs?  Felt slightly impressed with myself because I lifted more than the other girls in class (but never more than the boys).  Had to change my grip to over/under, which felt weird.  I also need to work on getting my shoulders back more when I stand up, but that's an issue I've had in all my exercising (tight shoulders/slight round).

Bench press today...which promptly brought my down to planet earth.  A solid 73 lbs total lift (bar+20lbs on each end)...I suck so much at bench press, but hopefully I'll be getting better if I keep at it.

I am planning on getting a massage this upcoming Friday, when I'm off from work.  I just need someone to work on my trigger points in my shoulders that I have from horseback riding (aka: being thrown into things) and my lower back is unhappy with working out and then sitting a ton during the day at work.  Trying to walk a little during the day at work so I'm not completely sedentary.  

 

[Road Guy]

That's a pretty solid deadlift, even being sumo!

I was reminded this morning that I have defin lost some grip strength for heavier weights - and I am out of practice, trying to pull 3 X 305 and it kept pulling out the last rep (Also Dead lifts) annoying.. probably should have dropped the hook grip in favor of a mixed grip..

 

[Supe]

Other than the fact that sumo is cheating, that's pretty good.  Mrs. Supe's PR was I think 230 conventional after training it for a while.

 

[Tiger15]

Ugh, this thread makes me want to go back to the gym... but scared of COVID

 

[JayKay PE]

Other than the fact that sumo is cheating, that's pretty good.  Mrs. Supe's PR was I think 230 conventional after training it for a while.

Serious question, why is sumo considered cheating?  I was looking into this, because I've heard this from a couple people, and all I see if that it's a different movement/momentum from regular deadlifting?  Please explain to me if this is a 'serious' thing (where it's all a joke, but it is ingrained in the lifting community) or if it actually is a cheating way of lifting weight that everyone knows about?  I'm a baby lifter.  Plus I forget to write down what I lifted/a diary of what weights I did because I'm fucking exhausted at the end and forget what I actually did.  So who knows?  Next time I do sumo I might only do like 50lbs.

Yesterday we did back squats again.  Trainer did not load on a ton of weight and he said I need to learn the movement better.  So I only had 25lbs total on the bar which I appreciate because my quads were dying last time.  I think I'm understanding what/where the bar actually needs to be.  I def need to widen my grip almost out to the first ring with my pinky.  Meant I was able to get my elbows back easier and not arch my back.  Have to work on my breathing so I don't collapse.

ALSO I WAS AN IDIOT BECAUSE WHEN THE TRAINER SAID TO GET A SUPER HEAVY KETTLEBELL FOR SWINGS AT THE END OF CLASS I THOUGHT IT SAID WE WERE ONLY DOING 1 REP (NOT CONTINUOUS DEAD-STOP SWINGS FOR EACH ROUND), SO I GRABBED A 24KG AND DIED SWINGING.  I usually grab a blue for swings, maybe a yellow, but this time I grabbed a green.  

So yeah.

 

[Supe]

Please explain to me if this is a 'serious' thing (where it's all a joke, but it is ingrained in the lifting community) or if it actually is a cheating way of lifting weight that everyone knows about?

It's a joke, but it's joked on especially heavy by the strongman crowd because it's banned in strongman competitions. The main reason is the drastically reduced range of motion needed to lock out compared to conventional.  A lot of strongman competitions use 18" deadlifts instead of standard height, and in the early days, there were guys who were locking out with about a 1" lift.  

 

[Orchid PE]

I considered it a completely different movement. Sumo Deadlifts ≠ (Conventional) Deadlifts. Just as Pull-ups ≠ Chin-ups. Back Squats ≠ Front Squats. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with the sumo as a lift. It's not like it increases your risk of injury or anything. But it's completely different from a Deadlift. And I think a lot of jokes come into play when you hear/see people talking about deadlifts, then someone jumps in with how much they sumo deadlift.