EB Mafia

[RBHeadge PE]

I have to work under the assumption that the game effectively ends tonight. We, the town, of which I am a vanilla townie member, have to lynch a townie tonight or its over for us.

By the rationale gameplay numbers and POE there is only one logical person who could be the last mafia. But if the mafia ever voted against their interests, or got stuck in a bad vote, then the game theory breaks down and I have to go with my gut. My gut is usually wrong (see: last night).

 

[DLD PE]

deep sigh

Again:


This sequence isn't that hard to follow.
Day 1 (or 2): townie cleared (or mafia found)
Day 2 (or 1): mafia found (or townie found)
Night 2: mafia lynch
Day 3: If cop=alive then townie cleared; else town scratches its head and takes a random shot
Day 4: see day three

I understand, but I'm dead so no need to convince me, since my vote no longer counts.

The curious thing though, is earlier in the round you implied information shared publicly is different than information shared privately (i.e. in a "confirmed" townie thread). However, no other camper in this story (dead or alive, and I've asked around) has mentioned being a part of a confirmed townie thread. That has everyone suspicious. It might be useful to remaining townies to explain why dead, confirmed townies aren't part of the "townie" thread.

To the town: @RBHeadge PE plays a clean game, and if he declares he's town, you can pretty much bank on it, so there really is one remaining possible mafia member (assuming your game theory holds).

 

[txjennah PE]

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[txjennah PE]

@MadamPirate PE I retract my vote for @RBHeadge PE for the time being, subject to change if any additional data surfaces.

 

[MadamPirate PE]

vote update:
1 x @RBHeadge PE (Nik, )

 

[DLD PE]

@MadamPirate PE , my ghost retracts my vote against @RBHeadge PE for the time being.

 

[MadamPirate PE]

vote update:
1 x @RBHeadge PE (Nik)

 

[DLD PE]

Post deleted, since things are starting to make more sense.

I will revert to RBH's earlier analysis when he said there are three remaining mafia possibilities. 2 are dead, so you guys can figure it out from here.

 

[Tiger15]

Are dead townies allowed to reveal if they are in a chat?
I thought you can't reveal any non-public info after you're dead.

 

[DLD PE]

Are dead townies allowed to reveal if they are in a chat?
I thought you can't reveal any non-public info after you're dead.

You can't reveal your role after your dead, if it wasn't revealed publicly. For example, if the cop is unknown publicly, they can't announce their role after they're dead. You can speculate on who you think is townie/maf whether you are dead or alive. That's how I understand it.

I don't know about revealing whether or not you are in a private chat. To my knowledge, that is not against the rules.

If I have broken the rules, would the mod please let me know? If I have, I hereby take back anything I've said since this morning

 

[BlueBlueprintPE PMP]

You can't reveal your role after your dead, if it wasn't revealed publicly. For example, if the cop is unknown publicly, they can't announce their role after they're dead. You can speculate on who you think is townie/maf whether you are dead or alive. That's how I understand it.

I don't know about revealing whether or not you are in a private chat. To my knowledge, that is not against the rules.

If I have broken the rules, would the mod please let me know? If I have, I hereby take back anything I've said since this morning

ditto! i've only revealed that i am not in the townie thread - take it as you wish i suppose, but i didn't think that was breaking any rules - someone please correct me if i'm wrong. either way, at this point....

 

[MadamPirate PE]

You can't reveal your role after your dead, if it wasn't revealed publicly. For example, if the cop is unknown publicly, they can't announce their role after they're dead. You can speculate on who you think is townie/maf whether you are dead or alive. That's how I understand it.

I don't know about revealing whether or not you are in a private chat. To my knowledge, that is not against the rules.

If I have broken the rules, would the mod please let me know? If I have, I hereby take back anything I've said since this morning

To build on this, if the cop is dead, they aren't allowed to discuss who they cleared before they died, if they did not share that information elsewhere.

As far as revealing whether or not you're in a chat, I think that's up to the individual player if they wish to do so. I can see it as part of a strategy. But I think saying you're not in a townie thread is fair.

 

[FlangeheadPEAZ]

Pleaseee vote guys the suspense is building up on RBH and its too hard to handle for Friday. Plus I was hoping for a new game from Monday so I can be a part of this nail biting, lying, spying strategizing game once again lol

 

[FlangeheadPEAZ]

@MadamPirate PE , my ghost retracts my vote against @RBHeadge PE for the time being.

 

[MadamPirate PE]

Pleaseee vote guys the suspense is building up on RBH and its too hard to handle for Friday. Plus I was hoping for a new game from Monday so I can be a part of this nail biting, lying, spying strategizing game once again lol

Are you sad you didn't sign up for this week?

 

[Roarbark]

You can't reveal your role after your dead, if it wasn't revealed publicly. For example, if the cop is unknown publicly, they can't announce their role after they're dead. You can speculate on who you think is townie/maf whether you are dead or alive. That's how I understand it.

I don't know about revealing whether or not you are in a private chat. To my knowledge, that is not against the rules.

If I have broken the rules, would the mod please let me know? If I have, I hereby take back anything I've said since this morning

Personally I'd be against.

Case it could be abused:
Person get's night killed. Ghost says. "I was in town message group with ___________".
Ghosts are trustworthy (especially ghosts like me ), so there's no reason for people not to trust your statement, and you're dead so there's no risk.

It's a dead player directly increasing town's win % after being killed by Mafia, which doesn't seem fair to me. Even without the second part, the knowledge that there's a voting bloc by itselfcan be useful.

A live player in the group could say the same, but they're putting themselves at higher risk, and have to convince people they're telling the truth.

 

[txjennah PE]

@MadamPirate PE I vote for @ChebyshevII PE

 

[RBHeadge PE]

@MadamPirate PE I also vote for @ChebyshevII PE

 

[MadamPirate PE]

Personally I'd be against.

Case it could be abused:
Person get's night killed. Ghost says. "I was in town message group with ___________".
Ghosts are trustworthy (especially ghosts like me ), so there's no reason for people not to trust your statement, and you're dead so there's no risk.

It's a dead player directly increasing town's win % after being killed by Mafia, which doesn't seem fair to me. Even without the second part, the knowledge that there's a voting bloc by itselfcan be useful.

A live player in the group could say the same, but they're putting themselves at higher risk, and have to convince people they're telling the truth.

My argument is that you can say, "I was in the town message group." But not say "I was in the town message group with ____."

This is akin to the rule for the mafia, where once a mafia dies, they can't rat out the rest of the maf.

 

[MadamPirate PE]

vote update:
1 x @RBHeadge PE (Nik)
2 x @ChebyshevII PE (txj, rbh)