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this is all too nerdy up in here *waves hand in general direction of monitor*
I just has a rousing converssation about site class in front of some mechanical engineers, who were looking at us like, huh, your using words I don't know.

Thanks to Dr. Abrahim for allowing that conversation to happen.

 
@Roarbark also everyone is telling what they are working on today.

I'm currently making a chart to compare the stress-strain curves of 14 different plastics, some at multiple temperatures... (22 curves total). Nice to have a mental picture to sanity-check our FEA simulations.

Two of our senior engineers can't seem to agree on how the same parts would behave differently if we used different materials. :)

 
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Am I reading this wrong? The answer seems pretty obvious...
I'm probably not describing the situation very articulately. Trying to figure out which plastics have a higher or lower (nonlinear) stiffness considering raw material properties, processing, voids in the tests samples, and moisture absorption... and how that difference in stiffness affects load distribution in manufactured parts.

... Plastics are hard. I miss working on metals.

 
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I'm probably not describing the situation very articulately. Trying to figure out which plastics have a higher or lower (nonlinear) stiffness considering raw material properties, processing, voids in the tests samples, and moisture absorption... and how that difference in stiffness affects load distribution in manufactured parts.

... Plastics are hard. I miss working on metals.
Does modulus of elasticity come into play here?

 
Does modulus of elasticity come into play here?
Yeah, but plastics don't have a well defined modulus like metal do. Suppliers will publish a modulus, but if you plot the stress-strain curves, they are nonlinear from the start. Also with plastics, the "same" material can be very different from different suppliers. 304 stainless steel is going to be pretty much the same no matter who you buy it from. This is very not-true for plastics. Then some plastics have variations in properties depending on how it's processed (mold temperature, mold pressure, amount of shearing as it's forced through the gate, additives/colorants, etc). And nylons are notorious for absorbing moisture. They will suck water right out of the humidity in the air, and change both dimensions and properties. 

Because of all this stuff we obtain all of our material properties via in-house testing. I'm plotting a bunch of comparison curves now.

Sorry, this is probably way more than you wanted to know.

 
Does modulus of elasticity come into play here?
I'm pretty sure the simplicity of the modulus of elasticity is why @jean15paul_PE misses metals, which  typically have linear-elastic behavior.

I've been trying to approximate the stiffness of a random sand deposit in New Mexico for the last couple hours, so I feel his pain. ✊

 
Yeah, but plastics don't have a well defined modulus like metal do. Suppliers will publish a modulus, but if you plot the stress-strain curves, they are nonlinear from the start. Also with plastics, the "same" material can be very different from different suppliers. 304 stainless steel is going to be pretty much the same no matter who you buy it from. This is very not-true for plastics. Then some plastics have variations in properties depending on how it's processed (mold temperature, mold pressure, amount of shearing as it's forced through the gate, additives/colorants, etc). And nylons are notorious for absorbing moisture. They will suck water right out of the humidity in the air, and change both dimensions and properties. 

Because of all this stuff we obtain all of our material properties via in-house testing. I'm plotting a bunch of comparison curves now.

Sorry, this is probably way more than you wanted to know.
No I find it interesting.  I figured a "named" material would be more regulated than that.  I wonder if that's true with some polymers.  For instance, if I buy a urethane-covered golf ball from Bridgestone, MG, or Snell, how do it know how it will perform vs. a ball from Titleist?  Companies can claim whatever they want if it's not regulated.

 
Goooooooooood morning, Campers!

There are townsfolk (townies), and Mafia members. Townsfolk are going to try to eliminate the Mafia with extreme prejudice before the Mafia eliminates them. The game ends when either all of the Mafia is eliminated (town wins), or there are fewer townsfolk than Mafia members (Mafia wins). The game ends when either all of the Mafia is eliminated (town wins), or there are fewer townsfolk than Mafia members (Mafia wins).

The Mafia members are going to privately tell me who they would like to eliminate during the night. I will reveal to everyone what happened the next morning. Night eliminated players will not have their role revealed.

In addition to regular townsfolk and members of the Mafia, there is a Doctor, a Vigilante, and a Cop. The Doctor can choose someone to “save” during the night; if they choose the same person the Mafia or Vigilante choose, then that player will escape being eliminated that night. The Vigilante is a Regular Townsfolk who can occasionally choose someone to eliminate during the night. The Cop can “investigate” players during the day. The Doctor, Vigilante, and Cop are on the same side as the town.

During the day, everybody (Townsfolk and Mafia) will publicly vote for a person to sacrifice; I will eliminate the person with the most votes at the end of the day and reveal what their role was.

The Mafia members know who each other are, but no one knows anyone else’s role except me. I have sent more specific instructions to the members of the Mafia, the Doctor, Vigilante, and the Cop. If you did not receive a PM from me, then you are a regular townsfolk.

You may use this thread to vote and post about the game. Anyone (playing or not playing, eliminated or not) can use this thread to speculate, discuss, accuse, or otherwise participate in the game; just please make sure to follow regular EB forum guidelines.

To vote on a person to eliminate, mention me ( @MadamPirate PE ) in a post on this thread and tell me specifically that 1) you are voting and 2) the username of the person you are voting to eliminate. Please submit your votes by 9:00 pm Eastern Time each day; I will count votes after that time as being for the next day.

Your vote only counts if you are playing and not yet eliminated. If there is a tie for most votes, I will pick one of the voted users at random; or have a best 2/3 rock paper scissors match. If there are no votes, I will pick a person at random (i.e. role will not matter) to eliminate; suffice it to say it’s in both groups’ best interest to vote for at least one person.

The first vote will take place tonight on Tuesday (Jan 14).

For reference, the players in this round are:

@RBHeadge PE @txjennah PE @LyceeFruit PE @MEtoEE @JayKay PE @chart94 @_TheDude_ @squaretaper LIT AF PE @Will.I.Am PE @ChebyshevII PE @Roarbark @jean15paul_PE @Chattaneer PE

Good luck!
Dangit, it's @MadamPirate PE. That's who I was going to vote for.

Oh well. @MadamPirate PE, I vote for @_TheDude_ because he's posting invisible messages. SUSPICIOUS!

 
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