EB Mafia

[Eye Hate Landscaping PE]

I AM NEVER MAFIA, remember that for future rounds. Thanks @JayKay PE for a great first round back.

 

[Eye Hate Landscaping PE]

Also, I'm taking suggestions on a name change. I was going to change it after passing, but it wouldn't let me do it for 90 days after I added the PE...then coming back I didn't want a new name to take away my street cred as the worst player on here.

 

[RBHeadge PE]

I'm not mafia, I had a last minute run to a field operation 3.5 hours away yesterday and never logged in. I am a townie, I was cleared by @RBHeadge PE before he was dedded. @JayKay PE I placeholder vote for @txjennah PE.

I read this and thought "no I didn't. Can they be mafia?! They haven't logged in in the last 36 hrs so they CAN"T be mafa"

 

[Dothracki PE]

Haha it was a great game.

So Eye was actually cleared by RB? Meow and I went through the threads yesterday to make sure they weren't a confirmed townie (sometimes I do read, as @jean15paul_PE astutely noted ) We saw the +++ but wasn't sure if that was just a gut feeling or something more. I think we had initially pegged you as the cop.

Nope, just a gut feeling that they were town based on their posts I believe. I was not the cop, just @beccabun PE's right-hand man

 

[Tiger15]

@txjennah PE was dirty rotten mafia scum.

 

[MeowMeow PE]

I read this and thought "no I didn't. Can they be mafia?! They haven't logged in in the last 36 hrs so they CAN"T be mafa"

We hoped that if we didn't kill overnight, either Nole or Doth would notice that Eye hadn't been on all night, so they would think that Eye was maf and forgot to log on to kill. Then Jenn would overnight kill Doth or Nole and it'd be up to fate to determine the winner next day. We knew if she did kill someone, and Doth or Nole noticed Eye wasn't online, then they would automatically know Jenn was the maf. So we figured not killing someone gave her the greatest chance at winning. We decided to risk it with the whole randomizer thing. We didn't really expect the randomizer would kill someone over night. Then we got excited thinking "OK well if we can sway Doth to vote for Eye, then maf will win!" hahaha. We've been so excited messaging all last night and today. Such a fun game. Thanks so much @JayKay PE

 

[Tiger15]

@beccabun PE what was the vision that you hid from us?

 

[steel]

Haha it was a great game.

So Eye was actually cleared by RB? Meow and I went through the threads yesterday to make sure they weren't a confirmed townie (sometimes I do read, as @jean15paul_PE astutely noted ) We saw the +++ but wasn't sure if that was just a gut feeling or something more. I think we had initially pegged Duran as the cop.

@RBHeadge PE was the cop, but I don’t believe hi got the chance to investigate Eye. He investigated me on day 1, @MeowMeow on day 2, and @CivilPE2022 on day 3.

 

[JayKay PE]

@beccabun PE what was the vision that you hid from us?

That RBH was the cop, I think, but this was super early in the game and I don’t think she wanted to actually reveal it.

 

[RBHeadge PE]

Maybe it's the fact that @RBHeadge PE IS a fish.

This is true.

But I have also played with RB long enough and know he wouldn't make a statement about someone being mafia without evidence.

This is also true.

Second, I'm inclined to believe that RBH is certain of their declaration. Coming out with that information would be disastrous for the town and a weird flex for the mafia if it's a lie. Like, okay, you got one town out on the second day, but guess who's on the chopping block on the third day? Plus, if this is a mafia trick, then it seems uncharacteristically cruel to target a newbie, when there's plenty of sneaky mofo veterans to take out.

This is the correct take on every point.

This is very simple.

...

That is not a good sacrifice play since each mafia is more valuable than each townie (e.g. we have to kill 4 mafia to win, but they have to kill at least 12 9 townies to win). A one for one trade is a bad play. I know @RBHeadge PE is analytical enough to understand that.

Exactly.

but I have no reason to believe that @RBHeadge PE would do what he did if he wasn't sure meow was mafia. And I have big reasons why he wouldn't do the contrary - he ain't dumb.

That last three words are incorrect.

 

[RBHeadge PE]

anytime someone introduces themselves to me, it's white noise in my brain.

This is

@RBHeadge PE stopped typing, their fingers still on the keyboard, and glanced up from the fifteen monitors.

“I know what you are.”

@MeowMeow, who had begun to turn to antagonize others, paused. “Oh?”

“I know why you were transferred into our department.”

They fully turned back, shoulders tightening, and gently placed their half-full mug of coffee onto a nearby desk. “Do tell?” They purred. Like a cat. Like their name. Very sus.

@RBHeadge PE looked up at them from their ergonomic chair, unperturbed by the height difference. “It won’t work.” Before @MeowMeow was able to respond, @RBHeadge PE whipped out their spray mister they used on their exotic plants and pulled the trigger.

I'm seem to recall having a similar conversation to this. Did you have a camera in my old office?

 

[RBHeadge PE]

I don’t know if RBH is mafia playing a great game, or a townie with some information, trying to keep the heat off of me.

It was the latter. I had multiple situational and tactical reasons to impersonate the Cassandra. One of which was to protect the Cassandra.

 

[RBHeadge PE]

That RBH was the cop, I think, but this was super early in the game and I don’t think she wanted to actually reveal it.

Nole is the cop. Rbh was the cop. Duran was the cop. Cheb was the doctor. Flange is mafia. Lariless is mafia. Nole is the doctor. Rbh was town. Duran was the doctor. Cheb was the cop.1

That threw me and @structurenole15 off. It was revealed to @beccabun PE the night I was nightkilled, so I wasn't sure it was about me. Since we knew the identities of the cop and doctor, it was easy to use POE to guess what was true in the statement. We assumed it was about @FlangeheadPEAZ first, thus leaving only @Lariliss . Oops.

 

[RBHeadge PE]

I think we had initially pegged Duran as the cop.

I figured out that @DuranDuran PE was the doctor on the first day. Everyone dogpiled on him and it made it hard to try to rescue him without it being obvious. I was forced to vote to save him on day one, but that announced to the thread that something was going on there. No-win situation.

 

[JayKay PE]

The fun thing about Cassandra is that they can learn the roles of those killed by mafia (which usually isn’t revealed).

 

[RBHeadge PE]

Correct, we all have a tendency to deify RBH and his reads. He's not always right, but in this instance it's my best and only defense as I've stayed pretty quiet this round.

Even I don't like that my reads get taken as gospel. I'm often wrong. Especially in the early game. Sometimes they're based on hunches or inductive reasoning which shouldn't be given a lot of credence.

However IFF I'm brining the receipts then they should be given the appropriate consideration. Likewise if I'm making a blunt statement (see above) that would be destructive to my team if I weren't 100% sure of its validity.

To be fair, a neutral read doesn't mean he believes them to be neither town nor maf, just that he doesn't have a lean either way.

Neutral reads should be read as more "either" than "neither" is my point.

This is the correct take.
There are times when I used WPA analysis that can give someone a net-zero score. Which is different from having no score. The former shows mafia and town indicators that mathematically cancel out, whereas the latter lacks any indicators.

 

[Dothracki PE]

The fun thing about Cassandra is that they can learn the roles of those killed by mafia (which usually isn’t revealed).

Definitely fun when we already knew that and needed more information about players who were alive... *not holding a grudge or anything*

 

[FlangeheadPEAZ]

That threw me and @structurenole15 off. It was revealed to @beccabun PE the night I was nightkilled, so I wasn't sure it was about me. Since we knew the identities of the cop and doctor, it was easy to use POE to guess what was true in the statement. We assumed it was about @FlangeheadPEAZ first, thus leaving only @Lariliss . Oops.

That random crazy reveal by Becca had me thinking if they were Cassandra but from the Maf team as I was not maf and I knew that statement just kind of highlighted that Flange is a maf rest all are safe.... lol

 

[JayKay PE]

Definitely fun when we already knew that and needed more information about players who were alive... *not holding a grudge or anything*

It’s helpful if it reveals that - oh no! Cop is dead! Townies are ******, got to try and save the Cassandra.

 

[djl PE]

That was a lot of fun let’s do the next