The Running Thread

[knight1fox3]

https://www.everydayhealth.com/news/what-joint-docs-say-about-running/

https://www.livescience.com/36241-5-experts-answer-running-bad-knees.html

http://time.com/4667098/is-running-bad-for-your-knees/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/well/move/running-may-be-good-for-your-knees.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27699484

https://www.mensfitness.com/training/endurance/fact-or-fiction-running-ruins-your-knees

https://www.beachbodyondemand.com/blog/a-day-in-the-life-tony-horton  

LOL, it's on the internet, so it must be true. Challenge accepted. Stand by for counter-argument website links.

 

[csb]

LOL, it's on the internet, so it must be true. Challenge accepted. Stand by for counter-argument website links.

STOP BEING A TROLL IN THE RUNNING THREAD

 

[leggo PE]

Running is awesome!

 

[knight1fox3]

STOP BEING A TROLL IN THE RUNNING THREAD

I'm actually not. This is a legitimate concern I have as it took a lot of convincing for me to really start researching the prolonged effects that distance running has on the human body (i.e. not just knees and joint issues). Note, I used to run quite a bit during my undergraduate college years. And I have a few older friends who were dedicated runners like you and leggo. But now have chronic health issues that have been proven to be linked to their distance running days. Hence my comments above, though not accompanied with much detail I admit.

 

[knight1fox3]

Running distances is awesome!

Fixt. :thumbs:

 

[csb]

I'm actually not. This is a legitimate concern I have as it took a lot of convincing for me to really start researching the prolonged effects that distance running has on the human body (i.e. not just knees and joint issues). Note, I used to run quite a bit during my undergraduate college years. And I have a few older friends who were dedicated runners like you and leggo. But now have chronic health issues that have been proven to be linked to their distance running days. Hence my comments above, though not accompanied with much detail I admit.

But anecdotally I have older friends who have run for 40+ years now and have no such issues. Heck, my seventh grade geography teacher ran something like 35 marathons just last year. Are the chronic health issues all knee related? Are they people who have arthritis in the family? Are their organs affected? You're speaking in very broad terms about an activity that many people participate in each year with no ill effects, using anecdotal evidence to speak to a group that isn't going to change. This isn't the Heroin Group. 

 

[knight1fox3]

But anecdotally I have older friends who have run for 40+ years now and have no such issues. Heck, my seventh grade geography teacher ran something like 35 marathons just last year. Are the chronic health issues all knee related? Are they people who have arthritis in the family? Are their organs affected? You're speaking in very broad terms about an activity that many people participate in each year with no ill effects, using anecdotal evidence to speak to a group that isn't going to change. This isn't the Heroin Group. 

I don't quite see how my friends having bad health issues related to their running activities can be considered as "anecdotal". Always requiring assistance for their remaining years seems like quite a penance for an activity that some are claiming have "no ill effects". 

The questions you listed are what I have been researching. Of those (not just my friends) who reported health issues, 80-90% have some form of knee/joint issues. Having hereditary arthritis in the family I'm sure has some impact on the results, but I don't have any data to support that in favor of or against. No ill effects to any organs that I've come across. I've already acknowledged that my comments were vague. But given what I've learned to date, the results are certainly not "broad" or generalized. I just didn't figure on providing that factual information in great detail here.

 

[knight1fox3]

At this point, as CSB indicated, there's no sense in really debating this much further as it is akin to arguing politics on Facebook, futile. No one is going to change the other's mind on something they are passionate about. Carry on...

 

[leggo PE]

I'm actually not. This is a legitimate concern I have as it took a lot of convincing for me to really start researching the prolonged effects that distance running has on the human body (i.e. not just knees and joint issues). Note, I used to run quite a bit during my undergraduate college years. And I have a few older friends who were dedicated runners like you and leggo. But now have chronic health issues that have been proven to be linked to their distance running days. Hence my comments above, though not accompanied with much detail I admit.

This might be why you are seen as more of a troll in this thread than a well respected counter opinion.

 

[leggo PE]

At this point, as CSB indicated, there's no sense in really debating this much further as it is akin to arguing politics on Facebook, futile. No one is going to change the other's mind on something they are passionate about. Carry on...

Yep yep! I agree.

Running may not be for all, but I think it's for some. (And for all of us back in the day -- caveman woman times, I mean)

 

[knight1fox3]

Running may not be for all, but I think it's for some. (And for all of us back in the day -- caveman woman times, I mean)

Indeed. Though as it still applies to short distances. :thumbs:  

 

[csb]

At this point, as CSB indicated, there's no sense in really debating this much further as it is akin to arguing politics on Facebook, futile. No one is going to change the other's mind on something they are passionate about. Carry on...

Gosh, if only someone had said something like this previously in this thread....

I'm stepping away from this. There is no place for "running is bad for your knees!" in the Running Thread. People who think that are never swayed. 

 

[knight1fox3]

 

Lies. You "said" you were stepping away. I never said I was. And then you posted again. Which obviously warranted another response on my part. #StepAwayFail

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[Ble_PE]

This thread today:

 

[leggo PE]

Running is fun!

 

[leggo PE]

Let's turn this thread around.

I've got some new Brooks PureCadence 6's (even though they may be on the 7 by now) that I plan to take on their first run tomorrow! I'd go tonight, but my old college roomie's in town from VT and we're going out for German food. I see some schnitzel, or perhaps some trout, in my immediate future!

 

[leggo PE]

Not to mention some excellent German beer. Calories to burn off tomorrow!

 

[csb]

I have a 30 minute easy run tonight. I'm hoping to head outside for it. My Newtons are a dream on the road and are great on the treadmill, but it's just a little different. I tend to wear Brooks Glycerins for treadmill runs. 

Mostly it's easier to go 30 minutes outside for sure. 

 

[leggo PE]

I agree! I much, much prefer running outside. When I lived in New England, I would really only run 6 months out of the year and spin and row (indoors, on a rowing machine) during the winters.

 

[knight1fox3]

Running short distances is fun!