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so ive been reading and it looks like it went down to #5 strength of victory?  It is still not really jumping out for me either..

 

Unfortunately for their fans, Tampa Bay didn’t get all the necessary help that it needed in the other games relevant to its fate. Actually, only two of the six contests produced the desired result. Tampa Bay needed three things to fall into place to nab a Wild Card spot: a tie in the New York Giants at Washington Redskins game, a Green Bay loss at Detroit and clinching the strength of victory tiebreaker over the Packers.

Strength of Victory Tiebreaker

Strength of victory is the fifth tiebreaker in the NFL procedures for breaking ties for a Wild Card spot between three or more teams. In order for the Buccaneers to have clinched that edge over Green Bay, Tampa Bay needed four teams to win their games: the Dallas Cowboys, the Indianapolis Colts, the San Francisco 49ers and the Tennessee Titans. When the Philadelphia Eagles defeated the Dallas Cowboys, it became impossible for the Buccaneers to nab the strength of victory tiebreaker over the Packers. Not having that tiebreaker therefore eliminated Tampa Bay from playoff contention, regardless of the fact that the Colts and Titans won their games.

 

Even if the Cowboys had won, Tampa Bay would have been eliminated when the Giants beat Washington. Once again, had the Giants and Washington played to a tie, the Buccaneers would have been eliminated when Seattle won. Finally, had both of those things went Tampa Bay’s way, the Buccaneers would have been eliminated when Green Bay defeated Detroit in the Sunday night game.

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Wow, that all seems pretty strange.  Wonder why strength of victory isn't higher on the list, if it counts for more than say better record in your division.  Just based on that, I can't see how it makes any sense.  And as an avid Seahawks fan, I sure don't want TB in the playoffs!  haha

 

Oh, and I just looked back at your earlier post, and those are the rules for a tiebreaker within a division, not a conference, so there must be some other order of importance for that.

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From your link (this is what applies):

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

  1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
  2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs

  1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
  4. Strength of victory.
  5. Strength of schedule.
  6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
  7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
  8. Best net points in conference games.
  9. Best net points in all games.
  10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  11. Coin toss.

 

 

So, #1-3 are pretty much N/A.  No head to head (#1), same record in conference (#2), #3 is a bit of a wash, as I mentioned.  So #4 and all its whackery applies, it seems.

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gotcha, I didn't scroll down far enough!  this is almost as fucked up as my work FF tie breaker which was "most bench points" WTF??

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I think NE's dominance says more about how weak their division is than it does about their team.  They go into the playoffs largely unrestrained and unhurt.

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1 hour ago, Audi driver, P.E. said:

I think NE's dominance says more about how weak their division is than it does about their team.  They go into the playoffs largely unrestrained and unhurt.

That and they cheat, right?

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1 minute ago, matt267 PE said:

That and they cheat, right?

Four easy wins with the Jets and Buffalo... every season.  Two teams that, combined, struggle to get 4 wins.:DV:

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FWIW, Buffalo was one of the Pats two losses this year.  I'm not seeing your point.

Belichick runs a tight ship and Brady has consistently proven himself.

Not too mention numerous other standout players that provide significant depth so that the team can handle star players on the injured list wthout collapsing.

Haters just gotta hate..

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17 minutes ago, MA_PE said:

FWIW, Buffalo was one of the Pats two losses this year.  I'm not seeing your point.

Belichick runs a tight ship and Brady has consistently proven himself.

Not too mention numerous other standout players that provide significant depth so that the team can handle star players on the injured list wthout collapsing.

Haters just gotta hate..

There's an exception that proves every rule, right?  hahaha.  Yeah, I hate the Pats... is it obvious? :D

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30 minutes ago, Audi driver, P.E. said:

Four easy wins with the Jets and Buffalo... every season.  Two teams that, combined, struggle to get 4 wins.:DV:

Not sure where you get your stats but Buffalo has only had two seasons with four or less wins in the past 30 years.

Go Bills.  And every team that plays the Patriots.

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7 minutes ago, Audi driver, P.E. said:

I hate the Pats

That happens when your team can't win against them.

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4 minutes ago, ambro1524 said:

Not sure where you get your stats but Buffalo has only had two seasons with four or less wins in the past 30 years.

Go Bills.  And every team that plays the Patriots.

I admit it was a bit of hyperbole employed to hate on the Pats, but I didn't say Buff only ever gets four or less wins, I said they STRUGGLE to get 4 wins (combined with the wins of the Jets).:D

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4 minutes ago, matt267 PE said:

That happens when your team can't win against them.

Well, my team handed them a pretty resounding defeat this season, so....

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35 minutes ago, Audi driver, P.E. said:

Well, my team handed them a pretty resounding defeat this season, so....

Depends on the definition of the word resounding.  I'll admit preventing a touchdown with 1st and goal at the end of the game was fantastic defense, but the point total was a single touchdown so not exactly a rout.  Pats should've tied it or won, but they did not.

Seattle is a good team and a great opponent.  I don't hate them for winning the game, I give credit where credit is due.

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1 hour ago, MA_PE said:

Depends on the definition of the word resounding.  I'll admit preventing a touchdown with 1st and goal at the end of the game was fantastic defense, but the point total was a single touchdown so not exactly a rout.  Pats should've tied it or won, but they did not.

Seattle is a good team and a great opponent.  I don't hate them for winning the game, I give credit where credit is due.

Well, I watched the game and it was a pretty dominating performance despite the score.  And Seattle didn't have Brady's most feared weapon, Michael Bennett.

 

And while I think the Pats played them masterfully the time prior, they didn't beat them then either... their own dumbwit Bevell did.  But that's, as they say... ancient history.:D

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4 hours ago, MA_PE said:

Seattle is a good team and a great opponent.

Ugh. NOT a Seattle fan here.

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12 hours ago, leggo said:

Ugh. NOT a Seattle fan here.

Don't have to be a fan, but never underestimate your opponent.

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When Bill and Tom retire and the Pats go back to being a mediocre team, all the haters will gravitate to the next successful franchise.  Until then, we're enjoying it as long as it lasts.  

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7 hours ago, MA_PE said:

Don't have to be a fan, but never underestimate your opponent.

Ugh, again. I do NOT underestimate them. I just have suffered the very bitter pill that is the Niners general management. Oh what a quick rise and fall it has been, these past several years. I wonder when the ownership will wake up and realize they are so very bad at what they are responsible for... At least Baalke is gone. But York, gah!

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You're preaching to choir....

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42 minutes ago, leggo said:

I just have suffered the very bitter pill that is the Niners general management. Oh what a quick rise and fall it has been, these past several years. 

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50 minutes ago, leggo said:

Ugh, again. I do NOT underestimate them. I just have suffered the very bitter pill that is the Niners general management. Oh what a quick rise and fall it has been, these past several years. I wonder when the ownership will wake up and realize they are so very bad at what they are responsible for... At least Baalke is gone. But York, gah!

This came off as very defensive and somewhat aggressive, for which I apologize. I meant to mainly point out my frustration with the Niners' management (which I think I got the point of across), and was expressing my whiny frustration at being a putrid rival of said Seahawks. Blah! :oldman:

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