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23 hours ago, tmntjmc said:

I got the email as well. My big question is, how is the depth of the exam going to be different since we can no longer bring any reference material? The huge code books, sample problems, transmission, etc?? So many unknowns, I'm going to wait until I get the refund, and then re-register for the CBT. 

 

Best of luck, let me know if anyone has any ideas the breadth of this new exam type. 

There is a new exam spec for the EE:power CBT:. You can find it at:

https://ncees.org/wp-content/uploads/Power-Jan-2021_CBT.pdf

19 hours ago, jean15paul_PE said:

You should download the CBT reference from the MyNCEES site. Review what's there, and start using that as your only reference for practice problems.

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2 hours ago, Odinious said:

 Somebody tell me how to feel

From NCEES:

 

I'll echo others above and say that it looks like NCEES is doing everything they can to accommodate given the circumstances.I never thought I'd see the day that NCEES went off schedule, so this clearly shows they are trying.

I won't comment on what this means for the broader pandemic, but this and other recent steps look like a positive development.

In other news, it sounds like we're going to have to make a Jan 2021 results subforum, WTTS, spam thread, and map. 

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Its probably not any consolation, but I do feel for all of you that are in the midst of preparing for this step in your career attempting to obtain a license.  I recall all the trials and tribulations

NCEES claims that the October exams are still happening. My advice is that anyone who plans to take the test in October should study as if the exam will happen in October. At the same time, they shoul

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2 hours ago, RBHeadge PE said:

There is a new exam spec for the EE:power CBT:. You can find it at:

https://ncees.org/wp-content/uploads/Power-Jan-2021_CBT.pdf

:plusone:

I'll echo others above and say that it looks like NCEES is doing everything they can to accommodate given the circumstances.I never thought I'd see the day that NCEES went off schedule, so this clearly shows they are trying.

I won't comment on what this means for the broader pandemic, but this and other recent steps look like a positive development.

In other news, it sounds like we're going to have to make a Jan 2021 results subforum, WTTS, spam thread, and map. 

Thanks for this, I didn't see the new exam spec but that makes sense that all the code books are now available via PDF on exam day. 

Another thing I just saw is the registration cost went up significantly. for the pencil and paper it was $350 now it's $413 with tax.. 

Strange times, we will see what happens. 

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4 hours ago, tmntjmc said:

Another thing I just saw is the registration cost went up significantly. for the pencil and paper it was $350 now it's $413 with tax.. 

idk? economies of scale? They have to spread people out more and that inefficiency causes price increases?

I know it sucks, but you won't care after you pass.

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We received an email that NCEES has made changes to their plans for PE Civil October exam in certain cities. Here is their update  https://ncees.org/covid-19/ . We just wanted to let our students know you are covered under our Covid-19 Risk free enrollment, and that we'll be sending updated options to impacted students today via email. 

Thank You,

School of PE

 

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6 hours ago, School of PE said:

We received an email that NCEES has made changes to their plans for PE Civil October exam in certain cities. Here is their update  https://ncees.org/covid-19/ . We just wanted to let our students know you are covered under our Covid-19 Risk free enrollment, and that we'll be sending updated options to impacted students today via email. 

Thank You,

School of PE

 

Bolded text above is not correct. While plans for the October administration could change based on individual site requirements, we are adding another administration in January for PE Civil only (largest remaining pencil and paper population) to provide an additional opportunity for examinees. Please note this  additional administration is primarily to assist people who are unable to sit in October. Those who sit in October and do not pass will not be able to sit again until April. The "certain cities" are where we were able to secure sites in January.

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Is NCEES seriously putting themselves in the position of not allowing anyone to become a PE for an entire calendar year? That is crazy folks. Imagine other professions allowing something like this...what if we had no new doctors, or no new teachers entering the profession for an entire year.

I trust that NCEES has smart people at the helm. The problem of safely proctoring exams is easier than some of the exam questions they expect us to answer in under 6 minutes. Why not have more rooms, more proctors and more testing dates. If local guidelines only allow 25 people in a room, be conservative and plan for only 10 test takers to be in a room. Get more rooms. Get more proctors. Stop cancelling exams on us and preventing us from moving forward in our careers.

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On 8/16/2020 at 5:18 PM, Civil_dad said:

Is NCEES seriously putting themselves in the position of not allowing anyone to become a PE for an entire calendar year? That is crazy folks. Imagine other professions allowing something like this...what if we had no new doctors, or no new teachers entering the profession for an entire year.

I trust that NCEES has smart people at the helm. The problem of safely proctoring exams is easier than some of the exam questions they expect us to answer in under 6 minutes. Why not have more rooms, more proctors and more testing dates. If local guidelines only allow 25 people in a room, be conservative and plan for only 10 test takers to be in a room. Get more rooms. Get more proctors. Stop cancelling exams on us and preventing us from moving forward in our careers.

Isn't that exactly what they are doing? They split the October test into two separate days. They added a January test administration specifically for civil examinees. They sped up the electrical transition from paper to computer-based to further reduce the number of test takers in the room, while still allowing electricals to take their exam "soon". I empathize with engineers trying to sit for the exam because some of this is a huge inconvenience. But we're in a pandemic, and all I see is NCEES jumping through hoops to get people tested.

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 I looked up what going on with the bar exam just for kicks. The bar is usually only offered in February and July so it's not exactly apples-to-apples schedule wise, nor is there a central testing authority but its close enough for discussion. The NCBE has a summary of what's going on in the various jurisdictions.

https://www.ncbex.org/ncbe-covid-19-updates/july-2020-bar-exam-jurisdiction-information/

There's a lot of differences in how States are responding to pandemic.  Most are trying to find ways to deal with the situation. Some states are changing schedules, some are allowing to practice with only a degree under a barred lawyer, there are new reciprocity agreements in place, some are adding more testing sessions, and some DGAF and are doing business as usual. 

tl;dr other professions are being similarly impacted.

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Spoke to the school of PE. Seems like they will extend your course if you register for either the January or April exams. No need to wait for NCEES to cancel. That is very good from them. I cancelled for October. This COVID situation isn't improving, and don't want to study, waste the rest of the summer and then for the exam to cancel for me. Good luck for those sticking to it.

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1 hour ago, Glutton 4 Punishment 2020 said:

California Exams Cancelled/Relocated to Nevada. What state will be next?

Keep your fingers crossed there will not be any others.  Now, you can understand why NCEES previously announced the regional sites for January 2021 for the PE Civil exams.

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55 minutes ago, CAPLS said:

Keep your fingers crossed there will not be any others.  Now, you can understand why NCEES previously announced the regional sites for January 2021 for the PE Civil exams.

Let it be....I think all should be canceled...and converting to CBT...

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21 minutes ago, PEVA said:

Let it be....I think all should be canceled...and converting to CBT...

Over time they will be. The conversion schedule is available on the NCEES website. 

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11 hours ago, vhab49_PE said:

ALL California exams, or just SE?

All.
 

Madison, WI location was cancelled as well. Moved to Milwaukee.

Also, NCEES moved up the CBT date for the Civil exams from 2023 to 2022. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, civilrobot said:

All.
 

Madison, WI location was cancelled as well. Moved to Milwaukee.

Also, NCEES moved up the CBT date for the Civil exams from 2023 to 2022. 

 

 

Ew.

SE still seems to be 2024 for CBT. I have time I guess.

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2 hours ago, PlanCheckEng said:

Where is the information coming from that CA national exams are cancelled?

People posted about receiving emails on the PE sub-reddit. May be some part of CA. I just know that they were told to test in Reno or Vegas if they still want to sit for it. Maybe it's Northern CA or something. I live on the east coast so my geography is a little off.

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A warning was issued by California Board of PE. On August 4th, they may reach capacity for the PE Exam.  See below and link is here 

https://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/

Another link on the cancellation, here.  In the column for Exam Date, it reads "canceled*". Then at the bottom of the page is the *.  Click on this too.

https://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/applicants/exam_schedule_final_filing_dates.pdf

https://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/applicants/prometric_covid_notice.pdf

ANNOUNCED AUGUST 4, 2020 - Fall 2020 NCEES Paper and Pencil Examinations Update - Despite NCEES’s efforts to accommodate all approved examination candidates in California by adding an additional day of testing, the overall volume of candidates together with adherence to currently mandated local and regional safety and physical distancing protocols has resulted in examination locations that have nearly reached allowable capacity.  NCEES is actively evaluating all viable alternatives to accommodate additional approved California candidates.  BPELSG is continuing to monitor this situation with NCEES and expects to provide more information within the next two weeks.  We encourage all interested parties to monitor any new examination information at https://ncees.org/october-2020-exam-administration-updates/

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Hi All!:

 

I need a quick advice. I don't know I have to post here or any where else. I am new with the EB system.

 

What do you recommend ? I got an offer with the government to work as a Civil Engineer, but currently I am working with a private company. My salary and benefits would be better in Government but I have to work like 8 hours every day. Right now in the private company that I work, I have flexibility to take times off for my PE studies.

I am worried to join the government or stay with my current company. 

 

I am taking PE Civil (Construction Depth) Exam this October.

 

Please advise on this.

 

Thanks

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6 hours ago, Smart Sam said:

Hi All!:

 

I need a quick advice. I don't know I have to post here or any where else. I am new with the EB system.

 

What do you recommend ? I got an offer with the government to work as a Civil Engineer, but currently I am working with a private company. My salary and benefits would be better in Government but I have to work like 8 hours every day. Right now in the private company that I work, I have flexibility to take times off for my PE studies.

I am worried to join the government or stay with my current company. 

 

I am taking PE Civil (Construction Depth) Exam this October.

 

Please advise on this.

 

Thanks

As someone who just switched jobs and is planning to take the AE exam in October, it's definitely manageable. It requires a lot of time management, but if you think it's a good move for you to take, then take it. Granted, I was supposed to take the exam in April, so a lot of my studying now is review and practice questions. It's still possible to get the necessary amount of studying done while working 40 hours a week, you just need to accept that your weekends and/or evenings will need to be dedicated to studying. Additionally, the nice thing about starting a new job is that the work load in the beginning is usually pretty light, plus if you're able to manage it financially, you could possibly take a week off between jobs and spend time studying then. But in the end, it comes down to how comfortable you feel about adjusting to a new job while basically having a part time job for the next 53 days. 

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On 8/31/2020 at 2:11 AM, Smart Sam said:

Hi All!:

 

I need a quick advice. I don't know I have to post here or any where else. I am new with the EB system.

 

What do you recommend ? I got an offer with the government to work as a Civil Engineer, but currently I am working with a private company. My salary and benefits would be better in Government but I have to work like 8 hours every day. Right now in the private company that I work, I have flexibility to take times off for my PE studies.

I am worried to join the government or stay with my current company. 

 

I am taking PE Civil (Construction Depth) Exam this October.

 

Please advise on this.

 

Thanks

TAKE your PE first regardless....First ASAP....the more you wait ..the more energy you need...best luck...

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On 8/31/2020 at 6:15 AM, rebecca1 said:

As someone who just switched jobs and is planning to take the AE exam in October, it's definitely manageable. It requires a lot of time management, but if you think it's a good move for you to take, then take it. Granted, I was supposed to take the exam in April, so a lot of my studying now is review and practice questions. It's still possible to get the necessary amount of studying done while working 40 hours a week, you just need to accept that your weekends and/or evenings will need to be dedicated to studying. Additionally, the nice thing about starting a new job is that the work load in the beginning is usually pretty light, plus if you're able to manage it financially, you could possibly take a week off between jobs and spend time studying then. But in the end, it comes down to how comfortable you feel about adjusting to a new job while basically having a part time job for the next 53 days. 

Thanks for the beautiful and valuable advices.

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23 minutes ago, PEVA said:

TAKE your PE first regardless....First ASAP....the more you wait ..the more energy you need...best luck...

Thank you. That is definitely true, I have to pass by any means and method this October.

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