~~**-- The Weather Thread --**~~

[RIP - VTEnviro]

I was just over in West Leb for lunch. I'm sitting looking out the window and this slate gray cloud just starts rolling in. It looked more like smoke from an industrial diaster rather than rain clouds.

Rt. 4 on the VT side of the bridge from White River to West Leb is flooded. I just drove through a foot of water on the way back to the office.

I guess this means my softball game is off later.

 

[Hill William]

It's hotter than two squirrels screwin in a wool sock here with about 90% humidity. I'd say we'll get some thundershowers tonight just because of the heat.

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

It's hotter than two squirrels screwin in a wool sock here with about 90% humidity.

And I've now just spit water on my screen. Funny stuff.

 

[frazil]

hmy: holy crap Sapper!

 

[roadwreck]

Aye Caramba!!! That thermometer is pegged!

I don't think my oven gets that hot.

You guys take care of yourselves out there. I was going to complain about the weather here last night (during my soccer game) but not after seeing that.

 

[frazil]

I was away from my office this afternoon and came back to find - literally - a puddle at my desk. My keyboard and mouse were totally soaked and there are large wet areas on the rug.

All the rain we've had in the past 2 days has filtered through the roof and is sitting on ceiling tiles and flourescent lights right over my head! I think it must have been divine intervention that compelled me to work in the library today...or maybe I'm speaking too soon!

 

[Dleg]

We had a typhoon passing south of us this week. Now it's off in the Philippine Sea to our west, and kicking up some killer surf, dudes!

 

[cement]

still too cold to pave HMA here at night. sorry Sapper.

why is the weather thread in the secret room? noobs got weather!

 

[FlyPaper]

That picture is rigged isn't it Sapper? There is no way it could be that hot anywhere. I can see 130 maybe in the middle of the desert, but you aren't serious are you? Does it really get that hot?

It's been over 100 here, with the humidity it feels like 115 according to the humidity index chart I looked at online. But, if your picture is true, I guess you got me beat.

 

[FlyPaper]

Wow, how can anybody function in that kind of heat? I bet you folks are drinking tons of gatorade and water, aren't you?

 

[benbo]

I thought that was like the cradle of civilization - the Garden of Eden. No wonder everyone left.

 

[Dleg]

Holy shit! We're having a downpour of monumental proportions right now. I kid you not, I think it has dumped 2 inches in just under a half hour, and it isn't stopping. The 4-lane road below my window is flooded to the crown, and it is spilling over to our side now. I just went into the basement parking to find the maintenance guy, because my window is leaking badly, and there's a river discharging into there. About 6 inches of water around the cars and rising.

Woo hoo! Time to go get some pictures for my next erosion control workshops!

 

[Dleg]

Apparently the grate on the catch basin across the street was clogged up with debris:

Which sent a lot of that runoff over the crown of the road and into our basement parking area:

Which filled up because the infiltrators were probably sized too small, based on the observed water level in the highest catch basin:

and this tiny little 6 inch pipe through the wall is the only overflow structure I could find:

I trashed my office shoes rescuing my car from the basement. What really burns me about this is that I always get grief from the local "engineers' when I return their plans to them telling them to size their systems based on our established design storms, or question them about how their design deals with off-site run-on or their overflow structures. This was just a typical wet-season downpour. An intense one, to be sure, but nowhere near the peak that can come in a typical typhoon.

 

[cement]

Dleg, you have cars there? I pictured foot powered carts like on Gilligan's Island :blink:

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

I trashed my office shoes rescuing my car from the basement. What really burns me about this is that I always get grief from the local "engineers' when I return their plans to them telling them to size their systems based on our established design storms, or question them about how their design deals with off-site run-on or their overflow structures. This was just a typical wet-season downpour. An intense one, to be sure, but nowhere near the peak that can come in a typical typhoon.

What is the design storm there? Is it measured in feet?

 

[roadwreck]

Dleg, you have cars there? I pictured foot powered carts like on Gilligan's Island :blink:

Not only do they have cars they even have subways. Look, there is one right across the street.

 

[Dleg]

VT - the design storm for sizing infiltrators and ponds, as it stands right now, is the 25 year, 24 hour storm. Which according to our latest guidance is 16 inches. So, yes - that's 1.3 feet. But our newest guidance, which has not yet become regulation, would allow for a smaller system in areas where direct drainage to the ocean exists. But for areas like our office, which drain to neighboring properties, the overbank flood control criteria applies, which still requires retention of the 25 year storm.

Sapper - vindication is a personal thing, at best. If I showed these photos to the engineers who give me trouble, they would probably just shrug their shoulders and say "so what?", or go complain about me to my boss or some politician. But to be fair, there are a few decent engineers around here who would not design a drainage system like this one. Very few.

And you can bet I eat at that Subway ALOT.

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

VT - the design storm for sizing infiltrators and ponds, as it stands right now, is the 25 year, 24 hour storm. Which according to our latest guidance is 16 inches. So, yes - that's 1.3 feet.

Sweet mother of fuck! I was kidding about the feet business.
In Vermont they use the uniform sizing criteria. Our 100-year, 24-hour storm in my county is 5.9 inches. The 10 year, which is as far out as any project has dictated I design for, is around 4 or so.

But for areas like our office, which drain to neighboring properties, the overbank flood control criteria applies

Huh. Here they call the 10 year storm 'overbank flood control'.

 

[Hill William]

Damn, that is some hot shit. So much for frying an egg on the sidewalk when its hot.

 

[Dleg]

Hot liquids??? So, if you leave a bottle of water out in the sun, it can get hot enough to burn you??? That's some serious heat.