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Jeb,

the 2009 year was the 4th Gen body style change on the Dodges. The 2013's had some other changes too; but I've yet to hear them called 5th Gen. Good luck on your search!

 
I've discovered that when I go to the various websites, if I broaden my search area to within 75-100 miles around Cincinnati there are some pretty nice looking trucks that are several thousand cheaper than what they are around here. I'm guessing they are either more common out in the boonies or the dealers don't have the overhead to worry about. Either way, it should be a good way to get a dealer around here to drop their price because I certainly don't have a problem driving an hour to save $2-3,000.

 
I've discovered that when I go to the various websites, if I broaden my search area to within 75-100 miles around Cincinnati there are some pretty nice looking trucks that are several thousand cheaper than what they are around here. I'm guessing they are either more common out in the boonies or the dealers don't have the overhead to worry about. Either way, it should be a good way to get a dealer around here to drop their price because I certainly don't have a problem driving an hour to save $2-3,000.
That's basically what we did for my car. we did internet searches within a 100 mile radius of us, asked for quotes from them all then went to one of the closer ones and said can you beat this offer? If not, goodbye. They offered $500 lower than the cheapest we found...standard rule for their dealership. so the drive was an hr instead of 2hr to get to the dealer.

 
so Friday mr snick picks up his brand new company vehicle from the closest Toyota dealer. IT has 6 miles on it when he gets it. There were 60 miles on it by the time he got home. Friday evening he went to move the car on the drive way and the check engine light goes on....according to the manual it is something to get looked at right away, but not a do not drive warning. We drove it around this weekend and when the engine goes to change gears the whole car chugs like the gears are slipping....kind of annoying really. Brand spanking new car and he already has to spend time at the dealership.

 
Did the dealer prep guys forget to fill it with fluids?

 
It's chugging because of the extra load through the exhaust. Get the muffler bearings replaced as it's likely too late to just grease them up.

 
Did the dealer prep guys forget to fill it with fluids?


THat would be funny given the headache he went through just getting the car. HR said the dealership has car they sent them the deivery slips etc. He gets there to pick up and they say we don't have your car. They walk the lot twice looking for it and nada. Mr snick drive home and calls HR saying the dealer didn't have the car. HR calls the dealer and basically says you f'do have the car. Here is the paperwork YOU SENT us. Mr snick gets a call back from HR saying they walked the lot again with several more people and found the car. Give them a few hrs to prep it and go back to get it.

It's chugging because of the extra load through the exhaust. Get the muffler bearings replaced as it's likely too late to just grease them up.

THe manual said it was one of 3 electronic control issues.

 
Did the dealer prep guys forget to fill it with fluids?


THat would be funny given the headache he went through just getting the car. HR said the dealership has car they sent them the deivery slips etc. He gets there to pick up and they say we don't have your car. They walk the lot twice looking for it and nada. Mr snick drive home and calls HR saying the dealer didn't have the car. HR calls the dealer and basically says you f'do have the car. Here is the paperwork YOU SENT us. Mr snick gets a call back from HR saying they walked the lot again with several more people and found the car. Give them a few hrs to prep it and go back to get it.

It's chugging because of the extra load through the exhaust. Get the muffler bearings replaced as it's likely too late to just grease them up.

THe manual said it was one of 3 electronic control issues.
Low Blinker fluid will set that code off...

 
But if you're in to get your blinker fluid refilled, it's always a good idea to get the muffler bearings re-greased.

 
finally got the verdict from mr snick in an email

they found the oxygen sensor wires had been chewed completely through by animal making a nest in engine compartment. They had the van parked up against the tree line at the edge of their property (which is why they couldn't find it when I first went to the dealership).

 
Nice. It's always interesting when you find those types of things, especially because they're usually discovered alongside a slurry of animal parts from being in the engine compartment when it was started...

 
I really hope the dealership is going to be the one on the hook to pay for the repair. Or else it will have to come out the regional budget like all repairs to the leased vehicles

 
First time I've heard of that happening to a new car. I've cleared my fair share of nests (mouse/bird/bees) out of the POS cars my friends and I had in high school and college though.

 
Mr snick's company orders the car months in advance for it to sit at whatever dealer near the guys that accepts to process the paperwork...but then it has to wait until mr snicks current lease conditions are up...sometimes is it time, others it is time or milelage. So it could have been sitting there at the edge of the dealer property next to the treeline/open field for over a month in rural southern IL.

mr snick coworkers last car exchange consisted of HR calling every morning asking for the mileage so he could end up at the dealer just as or very close to the mileage requirement...the dudes new car was sitting on the dealer lot for 3 months....granted it was an urban area but still.

 
^yep. Before all this he had asked if they could send it to one of the dealerships closer to where he spends most of his time (STL or decatur) instead of literally in the middle of nowhere. They said no this time, but next time just ask before ordering. After this event I'm sure they wont forget.

 
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