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Actually I'm hearing serious rumblings that there was a massive administrative problem. One of the surveyors in my office was at him local chapter meeting and heard it from another member who is apparently somehow tied with the state Board. Something to do with the type of graphite used in the pencils. The scantron isn't picking up half of answers. The story about the cut score meeting was just a cover. It was really to buy more time. My guess is that they are either deciding on how to proceed.

1. They could manually grade ALL of the exams. However that could delay the process significantly. Not to mention how much additional room for error this will create. A machine grading them is near flawless. A human being can miss things, be distracted, etc.

B. They could manually adjust ALL of the scoring sheets with the graphite of proper density. Again, very time consuming. Also, this introduces a level invalidation. Now sheets have theoretically been tampered with and legally that could an issue.

3. They admit to their blunders, a notify every examinee of the issue and request that they retake the exam.

Either way, don't look for the results any time soon.

 
Mike, was it just a problem in NJ? Or for all the exams? Should I bring my own pencil when I take the test?

 
Mike, was it just a problem in NJ? Or for all the exams? Should I bring my own pencil when I take the test?
That's a very good question Matt. Honestly, I don't know the answer. I only assumed it was national, thinking that the pencils are prepared and processed through the main test administrator. I guess it could be limited to a select batch of pencils. I don't have that detailed information.

 
Mike, was it just a problem in NJ? Or for all the exams? Should I bring my own pencil when I take the test?
That's a very good question Matt. Honestly, I don't know the answer. I only assumed it was national, thinking that the pencils are prepared and processed through the main test administrator. I guess it could be limited to a select batch of pencils. I don't have that detailed information.
Damn.

I'm glad I didn't take the exam this past Oct!!!

If you find out anything else, please let us know.

 
I also wouldn't be surprised if this impacted those planning on taking the April 2015 exam, should they to have the exams retake. It could push everyone back an extra 6 months. Unless they offer a special emergency test date for all the retakes. But I would imagine that they would score the exams at the same time as the April exams so expect major delays in the release of those results. It would effectively be 2x as many exams to score, while developing their two separate cut scores. This could be a real disaster the more you think about it.

 
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Thats it..... Taking a break from EB. IM GONNA HAVE A HEART ATTACK!!!

 
I might not be ready for April 2015 so I don't give a sh!t.

 
Actually I'm hearing serious rumblings that there was a massive administrative problem. One of the surveyors in my office was at him local chapter meeting and heard it from another member who is apparently somehow tied with the state Board. Something to do with the type of graphite used in the pencils. The scantron isn't picking up half of answers. The story about the cut score meeting was just a cover. It was really to buy more time. My guess is that they are either deciding on how to proceed.

1. They could manually grade ALL of the exams. However that could delay the process significantly. Not to mention how much additional room for error this will create. A machine grading them is near flawless. A human being can miss things, be distracted, etc.

B. They could manually adjust ALL of the scoring sheets with the graphite of proper density. Again, very time consuming. Also, this introduces a level invalidation. Now sheets have theoretically been tampered with and legally that could an issue.

3. They admit to their blunders, a notify every examinee of the issue and request that they retake the exam.

Either way, don't look for the results any time soon.
Mike's spot on as usual. His inside source must be awesome because I just got an email from NCEES at directly 0800 today saying that I will need to retake the exam on Christmas day.

 
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