NCEES approves motion that 4 years experience no longer to be required

[electricalPickles PE]

Looks like they are trying to increase the test pool sizes. At the August meeting they removed 2 requirements from the by-laws at NCEES:

- 2020 Requirement for Master's Degree

- 4 years engineering experience before taking PE

http://ncees.org/about-ncees/news/ncees-approves-revised-approach-education-initiative/

 

[ptatohed]

Your thread title is misleading.

'Among other actions taken at the annual meeting, NCEES member boards voted to remove its Model Law prerequisite that four years of progressive engineering experience be earned before a licensure candidate can take the final licensing exam, the Principles and Practice of Engineering exam'.

The key word is before. Two paragraphs down:

'Carter said that the change does not alter the requirements themselves. “The Model Law still requires four years of engineering experience for licensure. You don’t have to meet the experience requirement before you can take the PE exam, but you do have to earn this experience, along with meeting the education and exam requirements, before you can become licensed as a professional engineer.” '

 

[snickerd3]

just because ncees made the change doesn't mean state have to follow suit. Illinois already lets people test early, but notes from some of the board meetings looks like they might be rethinking that.

 

[electricalPickles PE]

Your thread title is misleading.

'Among other actions taken at the annual meeting, NCEES member boards voted to remove its Model Law prerequisite that four years of progressive engineering experience be earned before a licensure candidate can take the final licensing exam, the Principles and Practice of Engineering exam'.

The key word is before. Two paragraphs down:

'Carter said that the change does not alter the requirements themselves. “The Model Law still requires four years of engineering experience for licensure. You don’t have to meet the experience requirement before you can take the PE exam, but you do have to earn this experience, along with meeting the education and exam requirements, before you can become licensed as a professional engineer.” '

Well, anything with NCEES is related to the test, right? I thought that was implied, but yes my title could have said "before PE". It would certainty increase pool size of tests, because many people lose interest in the idea after school.

Being able to take the test right out of school is a huge advantage. I forgot so much stuff in the 4 years that followed while on the job.

 

[Ramnares P.E.]

As others have said, looks like NCEES is allowing examinees to TAKE the exam before earning the 4 years of experience BUT you need the minimum 4 years to become licensed.

 

[ptatohed]

Your thread title is misleading.

'Among other actions taken at the annual meeting, NCEES member boards voted to remove its Model Law prerequisite that four years of progressive engineering experience be earned before a licensure candidate can take the final licensing exam, the Principles and Practice of Engineering exam'.

The key word is before. Two paragraphs down:

'Carter said that the change does not alter the requirements themselves. “The Model Law still requires four years of engineering experience for licensure. You don’t have to meet the experience requirement before you can take the PE exam, but you do have to earn this experience, along with meeting the education and exam requirements, before you can become licensed as a professional engineer.” '

Well, anything with NCEES is related to the test, right? I am not following you. ? I thought that was implied, but yes my title could have said "before PE". No.... It should have said "before taking the exam". It would certainty increase pool size of tests, because many people lose interest in the idea after school.

Being able to take the test right out of school is a huge advantage. I forgot so much stuff in the 4 years that followed while on the job.

 

[Lumber Jim]

I don't know if I would have passed the PE Test right out of college. I believe the years of experience that I had helped me succeed.

 

[buffalo]

I don't know if I would have passed the PE Test right out of college. I believe the years of experience that I had helped me succeed.

Agreed.

 

[Ramnares P.E.]

Depends on which discipline you're taking. If you're taking one which requires detailed knowledge of engineering codes then years of experience will be a valuable asset. However, if you're taking one of the afternoon sessions which are more theoretical based, such as the thermal/fluid, you may find it easier to pass right out of college.

 

[ptatohed]

I like the idea of graduates needing work experience before they can get their license. Not because I think it is necessary to acquire work experience to pass the exam - I don't - I think the PE exam is extremely text-book based. But I think the 4 years (minimum) of actual real-world work exposure should be experienced by anyone who is going to be titled "professional".

 

[CAPLS]

NCEES is not "allowing" people to take the exam without experience. NCEES voted to change the Model Law/Regs to accommodate this condition should any of the licensing boards decide to move in that direction. 6-8 boards already allow this.