So I was actually the last submittal before LAPELS started using the NCEES record, so I didn't go through NCEES. I can describe what I did for LAPELS though.I just submitted my work history to NCEES this week. I fully expect to have it kicked back for edits and what not. @jean15paul_PE Did they give you a hard time about it your time not under a PE counting? Some of my experience, my direct supervisor was not licensed but a bit above him in upper management was licensed that I would like to use as reference.
I grabbed the text from the LAPELS Rules document and application instructions regarding what you should consider when writing your experience record. I'll quote it below for your reference. And I made sure to address all those things. It actually made my writeups a bit longer. NCEES record has a character limit, right? Regardless, the considerations are still applicable, just gotta try to be more concise.
I submitted to LAPELS, and for the 3 of 5 positions that weren't under a PE, LAPELS came back and said your record is incomplete. They told me to explicitly say, "This wasn't under a PE, but it should still count because it was: (whichever of these is applicable) "progressive experience of increasing quality/responsibility", "demonstrates knowledge of math, science, engineering", and/or "demonstrates application of engineering principles". I literally added that statement to each record and they accepted it.
Here's the stuff LAPELS tell you to consider.
Experience must be progressive on engineering projects to indicate that it is of increasing quality and requiring greater responsibility.
Experience should include demonstration of a knowledge of engineering mathematics, physical and applied science, properties of materials, and the fundamental principles of engineering design.
Experience should include demonstration of the application of engineering principles in the practical solution of engineering problems.
When writing a description of your progressive engineering experience, the Board should be able to determine these factors:
• What was the purpose of the project?
• What was the size of the project? How big or small was the project?
• What was the value of the project? How much money was spent on the project and how many resources were used? What was the budget for the project?
• Is the experience progressive? Does the experience indicate that it is increasing in quality and requiring greater responsibility?
• Does the experience include knowledge of engineering mathematics, physical and applied science, properties of materials, and the fundamental principles of engineering design?
• Does the experience include application of engineering principles in the practical solution of engineering?
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