Exam Results

[RIP - VTEnviro]

Good info MIG.

Next, a psychometric analysis is performed

Though a psychometer sounds like something you'd hook an examinee up to while waiting for his results. :Locolaugh:

 

[Hill William]

Good info MIG.Though a psychometer sounds like something you'd hook an examinee up to while waiting for his results. :Locolaugh:

Isn't a Sling Psychometer the thing you use to tell the humidity before a deck pour????

 

[Mike in Gastonia]

Good info MIG.Though a psychometer sounds like something you'd hook an examinee up to while waiting for his results. :Locolaugh:

This one is my personal favorite:

First, NCEES scans all answer sheets as they are received from the states. Answer sheets are flagged for review when they are missing critical information, such as the depth module examinees worked or the candidate ID number. The scoring process continues only when these issues are resolved.

So everything gets held up because people who are educated as engineers can't fill out their answer sheets correctly? And these are the people who may design our buildings and bridges?

I'm not sure I want those people in my profession - throw those people out and move on!

 

[Brian]

This one is my personal favorite:So everything gets held up because people who are educated as engineers can't fill out their answer sheets correctly? And these are the people who may design our buildings and bridges?

I'm not sure I want those people in my profession - throw those people out and move on!

I hear ya... make THEM wait, because they didn't understand the instructions...

I used to know a lady who was the cafeteria manager at a local gov't aerospace contractor. She would see the same people (elec engineers, mostly) come in for lunch and ask what was the special was that day. She would point to the board, where the special was written. The next day, the same people, would ask the same thing, and she would point to the board. This went on for 20 years.

Brian

 

[Mike in Gastonia]

I hear ya... make THEM wait, because they didn't understand the instructions...

I actually meant don't license them at all, but your solution might be a little less harsh. I mean, if these are people who want to be licensed and want to seal drawings and be responsible for the health, safety and welfare of the public and yet they can't fill out an answer sheet properly? I think it would be safe to say that they are not "minimally competent".

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

I think that's a bit harsh. In their defense, mistakes happen, and with all the stress and nerves going on before the exam, I think it makes it more likely.

I'm sure it's a pain in the ass administratively, but I wouldn't avoid a bridge designed by someone who's only professional blemish is messing up his social security number on the answer form.

 

[Mike in Gastonia]

I think that's a bit harsh. In their defense, mistakes happen, and with all the stress and nerves going on before the exam, I think it makes it more likely.
I'm sure it's a pain in the ass administratively, but I wouldn't avoid a bridge designed by someone who's only professional blemish is messing up his social security number on the answer form.

Yeah, I tend to shoot first and ask questions later, but then again, right or wrong, I hold engineers to a higher level than I do mere mortals.

 

[MA_PE]

Isn't a Sling Psychometer the thing you use to tell the humidity before a deck pour????

yes it is is NCEES like to measure how much people are sweating over the exam results and does not want to release them until the vast majority of applicants have sufficiently suffered.

 

[DVINNY]

right or wrong, I hold engineers to a higher level than I do mere mortals.

If you start on the grammer/spelling thing next, we will be forced to change your screen name to Tmac in Gastonia

:bio:

 

[DVINNY]

• Then, at least two subject-matter experts who are licensed engineers or surveyors review the flagged items. In addition, NCEES reviews all Candidate Comment Forms, and the subject-matter experts consider comments on the forms about specific exam questions. If the reviews confirm an error in a question, credit may be given for more than one answer.

I didn't want to slow the process down by submitting a comment card, but there was a problem on the exam that I felt did not have the correct answer as an option. I flagged that question in my exam booklet with a big "WTF?". I wonder if anyone from NCEES goes thru and reads the exam booklets. They might enjoy that one.

I couldn't even begin to remember what the problem was even about, but I remember it was in the AM, because I was PO'd all thru lunch thinking about it.

 

[traffic]

I'm in NC and we had 500 people taking it in Raleigh and I don't know how many in Charlotte. Never saw so many stressed out people in one place :bio:

 

[edd189]

I can admit it-- I am one of the morons who filled out their answer sheet incorrectly. In TX, we were to enter our Examinee ID as shown on our yellow admission ticket. I glanced quickly at the admission ticket and only saw my seat #. I was in a hurry to get started--and quite nervous!-- so I filled it out and moved on. Only at lunch did I realize my mistake. I tried to get it corrected w/ the proctor as soon as we returned for the afternoon session, but they were already sealed.

In no way am I incompetent to sign drawings and protect the general public from danger. I was just a little nervous at the start of one of the biggest exams in my career.

 

[DVINNY]

We are on your side edd, it can happen to any one of us, well........ except one guy we know.

cough cough tmac cough cough

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

Yeah but not only would :bio: .com not make any mistakes, he'd also remember all 80 questions he gor right verbatim.

:jerkit:

 

[Dark Knight]

Luis, I remember this time last year, someone came on here and accused you of being the guy from NCEES.......... maybe you can enlighten us

I cannot throw any light about this. It was a dark episode.

 

[grover]

I'm sure it's a pain in the ass administratively, but I wouldn't avoid a bridge designed by someone who's only professional blemish is messing up his social security number on the answer form.

I'll sometimes spend weeks on a drawing, making sure every technical detail is absolutely correct, going over the design with a fine toothed comb, checking-doublechecking and then checking again
...but forget to change the title block from whatever dwg file I'd washed off when I started. Engineers are wierd that way sometimes :bio:

 

[Hill William]

I'll sometimes spend weeks on a drawing, making sure every technical detail is absolutely correct, going over the design with a fine toothed comb, checking-doublechecking and then checking again
...but forget to change the title block from whatever dwg file I'd washed off when I started. Engineers are wierd that way sometimes :bio:

I think that also has to do with the fact that you have been looking at stuff for so long that it just looks right. I will turn stuff in and get it back with stupid shit wrong and it sticks out like a sore thumb. I just shake my head and change it.

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

That's why you always should have someone double check your work, even if it's just for style points.

 

[WR/ENV_Instructor]

That's why you always should have someone double check your work, even if it's just for style points.

Well said VTEnviro! An engineer should never question having their work checked by another engineer. Our area of expertise is an area founded and supported by peer review.

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

^ I figure before the city or regulatory agency catches my screw up, let someone in house do it.

Most importantly, do my methods make sense? Does it depend on water flowing uphill or did I say the clay soil is well drained or soemthing dumb like that.

Next, is there enough information shown for the contractor to actually build what you designed? It makes plenty of sense in your head because you're the one that designed it, but to someone looking at it for the first time, it may be vague.

Finally, how does the plan look? Stuff like lineweights and hatching and text conflicts and things like that. Sloppy plans are embarassing.