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I started studying in December 2019 for my CBT MDM Exam on April 18th 2020 in California but my exam got cancelled and they scheduled me randomly for May 18 in another state And they emailed and said that the appointment is random just to make sure I have a spot to sit in for the exam and I will need to sign in and reschedule the exam at my desired location. I did and the soonest appointment I could find around here was August 3rd. It sucks that my exam was delayed for that long but what can I do. Looks like there are a lot of test takers around here in Los Angeles. 
 

@Ijoinedbecausecovid congratulations for getting it done. I took the last paper/pencil MDM exam in Oct 2019 and I am retaking it in August 2020 in the new format. I wonder if it is going to be easier or harder with the new format. How did you like it? Was looking for stuff in the manual easy? Were there surprises in terms of concepts that NCEES has in their exam specifications? 

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NCEES just told me I passed. Whew, what a tremendous relief. Best of luck to everyone!

@Abogos I don't have any personal experience with the PE pencil-and-paper exam, although my FE was paper back in the day. Its pretty much the same except that the searchable handbook is faster/easier than using a physical book. But you do need to know the handbook really, really well to do the look up in time. No surprises, although I used the the PPI Learning Hub to prep and it is exhaustive. PPI LH is really brutal, but if you get through it your chances on the test are good. Sorry to hear they are closed up in Cali. Best of luck staying fresh, I know how much that sucks to have to maintain. I had considered driving to another county and staying in a hotel to take the test sooner rather than wait for a local place to open. Just a thought.  

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14 hours ago, Abogos said:

I started studying in December 2019 for my CBT MDM Exam on April 18th 2020 in California but my exam got cancelled and they scheduled me randomly for May 18 in another state And they emailed and said that the appointment is random just to make sure I have a spot to sit in for the exam and I will need to sign in and reschedule the exam at my desired location. I did and the soonest appointment I could find around here was August 3rd. It sucks that my exam was delayed for that long but what can I do. Looks like there are a lot of test takers around here in Los Angeles. 
 

@Ijoinedbecausecovid congratulations for getting it done. I took the last paper/pencil MDM exam in Oct 2019 and I am retaking it in August 2020 in the new format. I wonder if it is going to be easier or harder with the new format. How did you like it? Was looking for stuff in the manual easy? Were there surprises in terms of concepts that NCEES has in their exam specifications? 

NCEES and Pearson are trying to get as many CBT Centers up and running as soon as possible, but they are doing this while having to limit capacity at any given time while also adhering to any local or regional social distancing constraints.  Not to mention there are other professions testing simultaneously including those medical that will likely be receiving priority access due to COVID. It will slowly get better, but appointments will be strung out over a longer period of time than anyone involved had hoped for. Good luck. 

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Has anyone who has applied for the third quarter CA survey/seismic exams received any response back regarding their application review/approval from the Board? I submitted my application early February and my check was cashed mid February by CA DCA for application processing. I heard back from the Board Mid March that my application was sent for technical review but when I inquired about the status of the application via email late April/after the 60 day mark, they said that the Board never received my application. It's been two weeks since my last email forwarding the Board evaluator my USPS tracking/DCA email showing that my application was submitted to the Board and forwarded for technical review.  I also called the phone # listed on the State website and was given my evaluators phone number and told to call on Friday when they are in the office. I left a voicemessage a week and a half ago, no response both from the email/voice message. I understand with the COVID19 Pandemic there might be a delay in processing applications but I'm just worried my application is lost as it's been 86 days from when they first received my application and 82 days from when my check was cashed. 

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Has anyone who has applied for the third quarter CA survey/seismic exams received any response back regarding their application review/approval from the Board? I submitted my application early February and my check was cashed mid February by CA DCA for application processing. I heard back from the Board Mid March that my application was sent for technical review but when I inquired about the status of the application via email late April/after the 60 day mark, they said that the Board never received my application. It's been two weeks since my last email forwarding the Board evaluator my USPS tracking/DCA email showing that my application was submitted to the Board and forwarded for technical review.  I also called the phone # listed on the State website and was given my evaluators phone number and told to call on Friday when they are in the office. I left a voicemessage a week and a half ago, no response both from the email/voice message. I understand with the COVID19 Pandemic there might be a delay in processing applications but I'm just worried my application is lost as it's been 86 days from when they first received my application and 82 days from when my check was cashed. 

Please send me a private message with your name and contact info so this can be checked on. Thanks. 

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On 5/6/2020 at 8:55 AM, Ijoinedbecausecovid said:

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NCEES just told me I passed. Whew, what a tremendous relief. Best of luck to everyone!

@Abogos I don't have any personal experience with the PE pencil-and-paper exam, although my FE was paper back in the day. Its pretty much the same except that the searchable handbook is faster/easier than using a physical book. But you do need to know the handbook really, really well to do the look up in time. No surprises, although I used the the PPI Learning Hub to prep and it is exhaustive. PPI LH is really brutal, but if you get through it your chances on the test are good. Sorry to hear they are closed up in Cali. Best of luck staying fresh, I know how much that sucks to have to maintain. I had considered driving to another county and staying in a hotel to take the test sooner rather than wait for a local place to open. Just a thought.  

Nice, congrats for passing it and getting it done. That’s great news.

I also used PPI learning hub this time around, the 3 month subscription and it ended just before my initially scheduled exam date. I tried to do all the problems PPI learning hub offered in each area and took their diagnostic and practice exams. Now I am just reviewing. 

One question I’d like to ask you and it is very unclear for everyone who went from pencil/paper to CBT is that how much memorization is required for the CBT test? Concepts like material that is not quantitative and has lots of details, do we need to memorize all of the info in the MERM? 

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On 5/6/2020 at 1:17 PM, BuffaloWings said:

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Do they let you use asterisks or wildcards when searching the manual?

@BuffaloWings I don't know, it never occurred to me to try any wildcards. The search works sort of like asterisk by default because you can search a partial word and it will find all occurrences of that partial string. When you search it will show you a list of all the string matches in context of the word so you will know what word the string appears in. This video by NCEES shows exactly how it works: 

 

 

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On 5/7/2020 at 1:26 PM, Abogos said:

Nice, congrats for passing it and getting it done. That’s great news.

I also used PPI learning hub this time around, the 3 month subscription and it ended just before my initially scheduled exam date. I tried to do all the problems PPI learning hub offered in each area and took their diagnostic and practice exams. Now I am just reviewing. 

One question I’d like to ask you and it is very unclear for everyone who went from pencil/paper to CBT is that how much memorization is required for the CBT test? Concepts like material that is not quantitative and has lots of details, do we need to memorize all of the info in the MERM? 

I felt like you don't HAVE to memorize equations, but it will speed you up to memorize the common ones. Knowing where to find the complex ones is probably more efficient than memorizing them. I did read all of the chapters in the MERM that the Learning Hub tells you to (which includes their materials chapters). I read them once sometime over 4 months and memorized all the qualitative MEPP problems and I found that to be sufficient although not perfect. The breadth of qualitative problems is unbelievably wide so its probably impossible to memorize all the subject matter that could be asked about. Sorry for the vagueness, but I prefer to tread lightly around the non-disclosure.   

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On 5/6/2020 at 8:55 AM, Ijoinedbecausecovid said:

 

NCEES just told me I passed. Whew, what a tremendous relief. Best of luck to everyone!
 

Wow so with the new computer tests you get your results days after taking the exam? 

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For those of you who had their CBT exams cancelled/automatically rescheduled, how far in advance of your original test date were you notified/noticed and rescheduled? I'm signed up for the TFS on July 22nd and, like many others, the next soonest testing date is like October (if I'm lucky and no other dates open up when they cancel other tests).

I wanted an idea on how much advance notice I might be able to expect. Currently, my NCEES dashboard shows the "we can't show you your test date" but when I go to the Pearson website my test date and location remains unchanged.

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4 hours ago, Ijoinedbecausecovid said:

@ChooChooEngineer_PE Before I took the test I posted about the errors in the handbook v1.1 here: 

 

I'm well aware of the errors in the book. I was just curios if any of your questions forced you to pick between the correct answer and the correct answer per the handbook?

since your comment mad it seem like the errors were not going to get fixed before your exam.

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On 5/26/2020 at 12:09 PM, SamT said:

For those of you who had their CBT exams cancelled/automatically rescheduled, how far in advance of your original test date were you notified/noticed and rescheduled? I'm signed up for the TFS on July 22nd and, like many others, the next soonest testing date is like October (if I'm lucky and no other dates open up when they cancel other tests).

I wanted an idea on how much advance notice I might be able to expect. Currently, my NCEES dashboard shows the "we can't show you your test date" but when I go to the Pearson website my test date and location remains unchanged.

I was supposed to sit next Wednesday in NH. Logged in today to see if any further guidance regarding masks or procedures had changed Since I last logged in two weeks ago and came to find out that the cancelled my appointment. No emails from either NCEES or Pearson VUE. Speaking to both NCEES via chat and VUE by phone am just told to reschedule. Next closet thing is 4 months out. So don't expect any sort of heads up or reasonable notification... little irate at this point. 

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I just got the NCEES notification that I passed the MDM exam I took last week. I still want to shout “I passed” and I did do that when I saw the result. This was a difficult journey for me as it was for everyone out there who passed their PE exam or will pass sometime soon. 
The key is taking your time when you study, stay consistent, do as many problems as you can. PPI learning hub, NCEES practice exam, 6-minute problems, whatever you can and your time permits. Skip the overly complicated long problems, learn the principles well. Your plan should be to pass this exam on the first try. If you fail, you should register again right away, Stay at it till you pass! 
for me, 3rd time was the charm. First two times were P&P format and the last one was CBT.  Computer based exam was considerably a better experience for me and even if I failed I would still be happy that the format changed to CBT, way more convenient and overall better experience, all that carrying and having those references next to me confused me so much and affected my performance and overall focus on the exam, that’s just me. 

I want to thank everyone on the board who helped me and commented on my posts but I want to say a special thank you to @SacMe24 and @jean15paul_PE for helping me get through this, especially with their advices for the paper exam but I carried those advices to the CBT and got the result. 

I wish good luck to everyone else who is trying to pass their PE exam. 

Sorry for the lengthy post! 

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I just got the NCEES notification that I passed the MDM exam I took last week. I still want to shout “I passed” and I did do that when I saw the result. This was a difficult journey for me as it was for everyone out there who passed their PE exam or will pass sometime soon. 
The key is taking your time when you study, stay consistent, do as many problems as you can. PPI learning hub, NCEES practice exam, 6-minute problems, whatever you can and your time permits. Skip the overly complicated long problems, learn the principles well. Your plan should be to pass this exam on the first try. If you fail, you should register again right away, Stay at it till you pass! 
for me, 3rd time was the charm. First two times were P&P format and the last one was CBT.  Computer based exam was considerably a better experience for me and even if I failed I would have been happy that the format changed to CBT, way more convenient and overall better experience, all that carrying and having those references next to me confused me so much and affected my performance and overall focus on the exam, that’s just me. 

I want to thank everyone on the board who helped me and commented on my posts but I want to say a special thank you to @SacMe24 and @jean15paul_PE for helping me get through this, especially with their advices for the paper exam but I carried those advices to the CBT and got the result. 

I wish good luck to everyone else who is trying to pass their PE exam. 

Sorry for the lengthy post! 

CONGRATULATIONS! Glad I could help. Don't remember what I said though. :D

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11 minutes ago, jean15paul_PE said:

CONGRATULATIONS! Glad I could help. Don't remember what I said though. :D

Thank you, you have been pretty active here on the board answering general questions, your experience helped me plan and prepare better, glad to be done. 

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On 8/12/2020 at 8:56 AM, Abogos said:

I just got the NCEES notification that I passed the MDM exam I took last week. I still want to shout “I passed” and I did do that when I saw the result. This was a difficult journey for me as it was for everyone out there who passed their PE exam or will pass sometime soon. 
The key is taking your time when you study, stay consistent, do as many problems as you can. PPI learning hub, NCEES practice exam, 6-minute problems, whatever you can and your time permits. Skip the overly complicated long problems, learn the principles well. Your plan should be to pass this exam on the first try. If you fail, you should register again right away, Stay at it till you pass! 
for me, 3rd time was the charm. First two times were P&P format and the last one was CBT.  Computer based exam was considerably a better experience for me and even if I failed I would still be happy that the format changed to CBT, way more convenient and overall better experience, all that carrying and having those references next to me confused me so much and affected my performance and overall focus on the exam, that’s just me. 

I want to thank everyone on the board who helped me and commented on my posts but I want to say a special thank you to @SacMe24 and @jean15paul_PE for helping me get through this, especially with their advices for the paper exam but I carried those advices to the CBT and got the result. 

I wish good luck to everyone else who is trying to pass their PE exam. 

Sorry for the lengthy post! 

Congratulations my friend and welcome to the club !!!... so happy I was able to help another fellow engineer achieve their goal.... now pay it forward. I'm sure there are others in your shoes that have been studying for the P&P format and now find themselves having to prep for the CBT experience, I'm sure they would love to hear the details of your journey.

Once again, congrats on achieving such a big milestone in your career !

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3 hours ago, SacMe24 said:

Congratulations my friend and welcome to the club !!!... so happy I was able to help another fellow engineer achieve their goal.... now pay it forward. I'm sure there are others in your shoes that have been studying for the P&P format and now find themselves having to prep for the CBT experience, I'm sure they would love to hear the details of your journey.

Once again, congrats on achieving such a big milestone in your career !

Thanks again, my friend. Yes, I will share my experience from the beginning to the end of the journey. 

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