leggo PE
Straight Waffle-izer
Gosh, this is like the most serious topic in the spam thread yet!
You said it with more eloquence than me. LolThis is very locale dependent.
Uhm, it was about 3%? Smallest COL increase in the 5 years I've been here. I would think that in a civil field, where licensed professionals seal drawings regularly it would be more of a incentive to keep your newly minted Engineers at your company more than anything. My issue is that I'm stuck at the level I am at until I get my PE. And that burns. Especially since I'm not in my 20's anymore, and I don't have 40 years of career left. Partly my issue for later in life career change, but also have several years of experience in a related field.Was it straight nothing or a small percentage as a merit increase? If so, what was the % if you don't mind my asking?
Engineers shouldn't automatically assume they deserve a raise for obtaining a PE license. Especially if it does not provide any extra value to the company.
I worked for a company like that when I first got my PE. And I had to schedule a panel meeting and demonstrate why I felt a raise was deserved and what kind of additional responsibilities I would be taking on to warrant my request. In the end, I was able to negotiate a 10% raise. A couple years later I ended up leaving that company for consulting and a nice 20% bump.
In my opinion, you are only what you think you are worth to an employer. One cannot assume your employer will assume that you are automatically worth more. An employer will typically try to pay as little as possible for an employee. Especially if they can easily replace you. But if you demonstrate extreme value and an irreplaceable skill set, then you have bargaining power.
:2cents:
In that regard, I can definitely see that. And for that reason, said employer should have something built into their compensation policy accordingly. Which it sounds like they did in your case. In the consulting world, for just about any discipline, a PE is to be expected if one want to achieve any type of senior level. And be able to manage their own projects/clients. But for industries like automotive, manufacturing, food & beverage, etc., getting a PE may in fact have very little value-add for an employer.I guess the company I work for values me taking the necessary step to be able to sign drawings and head projects for them.
Haha, just happens to be one that I'm passionate about. There's an entire thread pertaining to acquiring a PE license vs. compensation levels. And from what I've posted here, you can probably guess that I chimed in quite a bit with my industry experiences.Gosh, this is like the most serious topic in the spam thread yet!
Yep! I'm familiar with that thread. But now, back to spam!Haha, just happens to be one that I'm passionate about. There's an entire thread pertaining to acquiring a PE license vs. compensation levels. And from what I've posted here, you can probably guess that I chimed in quite a bit with my industry experiences.
If they don't plan to reward you then they should not expect you to obtain it then. It is an expectation that engineers be on a licensure track, so I think it should be an expectation that once said achievement is unlocked there should be SOME kind of incentive.Was it straight nothing or a small percentage as a merit increase? If so, what was the % if you don't mind my asking?
Engineers shouldn't automatically assume they deserve a raise for obtaining a PE license. Especially if it does not provide any extra value to the company.
I worked for a company like that when I first got my PE. And I had to schedule a panel meeting and demonstrate why I felt a raise was deserved and what kind of additional responsibilities I would be taking on to warrant my request. In the end, I was able to negotiate a 10% raise. A couple years later I ended up leaving that company for consulting and a nice 20% bump.
In my opinion, you are only what you think you are worth to an employer. One cannot assume your employer will assume that you are automatically worth more. An employer will typically try to pay as little as possible for an employee. Especially if they can easily replace you. But if you demonstrate extreme value and an irreplaceable skill set, then you have bargaining power.
:2cents:
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