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I try to figure out the cut score each time the PE exam results are posted.  Please see the links below for my survey of the Oct 2017 test takers.  Sorry I only do the analysis for HVAC, Thermal, Machine Design and Power.  Just like everyone else stated, it is difficult to figure out the cut score with only a limited number of responses, so use the results with caution.

HVAC & Refrigeration Survey:  http://engproguides.com/hvacsurvey.html   [6.4% of total test takers surveyed, estimated cut score:  56]

Thermal & Fluids Survey:  http://engproguides.com/thermalsurvey.html   [5.6% of total test takers surveyed, estimated cut score:  53]

Machine Design & Materials Survey:  http://engproguides.com/machinesurvey.html   [4.1% of total test takers estimated surveyed, cut score:  50]

Power Survey:  http://engproguides.com/powersurvey.html [5.4% of total test takers surveyed, estimated cut score:  53]

 
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@txjennah and vee043324...

I passed the PE Environmental in October 2017 after several attempts.  I graduated with a Chemical Engineering degree almost 20 years ago, and have worked in the NPDES permit program since then.  So, the Air and Solid Waste portion of the exam was an uphill battle for me as well as time management.  I’ve found the following to be helpful in my passing of the exam.

-          SOPE review course

-          ASCE review course (Air portion of the course was outstanding, others were ok)

-          EERM

-          NCEES practice exam

-          NCEES Handbook- tab the Exposure Equations for Various Pathways and the Hazardous Waste Compatibility Chart

-          Environmental Engineering Solved Problems, Third Edition (R. Wane Schneiter, PhD, PE)

-          Truly understand the equations, as concept questions will be easier to solve.

-          Try to eliminate answers to questions you don’t know, then guess.  Try not to blindly guess.

-          If you’ve spent longer than 4 minutes on a problem, move on and go back to it.  More than likely, you’ll realize what you’ve done wrong after you come back to it.

-          Read the question carefully.  Underline what the question is asking for.  For example, a question asks for the freeboard above the design flow depth in feet.  The design flow depth and the freeboard in inches will most likely be included in the choices. 

-          For Air/ Solid Waste- tab the combustion equations and R values in the EERM.  Combustion/Emissions, Incineration/DRE, Stoichiometry/Material balance, Gaussian Distribution Equation/Plume Rise, Ideal Gas Law, Air Stripping, Particulate Matter control devices (baghouses, cyclones, scrubbers, ESP), Sorption/GAC, Landfills, Darcy’s Law, and Solid Waste Collection will be on the exam. 

-          Work and rework as much practice problems as time allows.

-          Be confident.  Pack your references and in your car the night before. 

-          Most importantly, don’t wait as long as I did while raising three children to take the exam, lol

 
On my first try I got 48/80, second try it was 52/80 and I passed this time around. My projection was that I might get between 58 - 62 and hence I was little relaxed. In my opinion 60/80 is safe score given that there are may unknowns involved in determining pass/fail.

One should not prepare for the exam keeping score in mind.
Which one of the exams did you take?

 
Cut scores were bad last time. Hearing the same likely this time. 
Cut scores are typically bad in

  1. April Exams before mid-term elections
  2. When the NFC wins the Superbowl
  3. When Porn Stars  Adult Film Entertainers become mainstream in the news.
I could be confusing this with the Apocalypse though.

 
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same. i did terribly in the morning. how do you think it went this time around? it threw me off a little having questions on all subjects throughout the entire day. 
Same thing, the morning was bad but i did well in the afternoon i do not know if i will pass or not. Yes, having all subjects was confusing. Hope all of us will pass this time😊

same. i did terribly in the morning. how do you think it went this time around? it threw me off a little having questions on all subjects throughout the entire day. 

 
@txjennah and vee043324...

I passed the PE Environmental in October 2017 after several attempts.  I graduated with a Chemical Engineering degree almost 20 years ago, and have worked in the NPDES permit program since then.  So, the Air and Solid Waste portion of the exam was an uphill battle for me as well as time management.  I’ve found the following to be helpful in my passing of the exam.

-          SOPE review course

-          ASCE review course (Air portion of the course was outstanding, others were ok)

-          EERM

-          NCEES practice exam

-          NCEES Handbook- tab the Exposure Equations for Various Pathways and the Hazardous Waste Compatibility Chart

-          Environmental Engineering Solved Problems, Third Edition (R. Wane Schneiter, PhD, PE)

-          Truly understand the equations, as concept questions will be easier to solve.

-          Try to eliminate answers to questions you don’t know, then guess.  Try not to blindly guess.

-          If you’ve spent longer than 4 minutes on a problem, move on and go back to it.  More than likely, you’ll realize what you’ve done wrong after you come back to it.

-          Read the question carefully.  Underline what the question is asking for.  For example, a question asks for the freeboard above the design flow depth in feet.  The design flow depth and the freeboard in inches will most likely be included in the choices. 

-          For Air/ Solid Waste- tab the combustion equations and R values in the EERM.  Combustion/Emissions, Incineration/DRE, Stoichiometry/Material balance, Gaussian Distribution Equation/Plume Rise, Ideal Gas Law, Air Stripping, Particulate Matter control devices (baghouses, cyclones, scrubbers, ESP), Sorption/GAC, Landfills, Darcy’s Law, and Solid Waste Collection will be on the exam. 

-          Work and rework as much practice problems as time allows.

-          Be confident.  Pack your references and in your car the night before. 

-          Most importantly, don’t wait as long as I did while raising three children to take the exam, lol
Hey @timmer1026, just now seeing this. Thanks for the advice!  I won't wait until three kids to take the exam, but am kicking myself for waiting 10 years after graduating to do so :)   I've struggled with air the most.  I'll take a look at the ASCE course, I can take it for free through my company. Thanks again :)

 
Awww @Maryam, I'm so sorry.

I'll be retaking the exam in October if you need a virtual study buddy. I'm awful at air and water, but can provide some value for the 3 remediation questions you'll see on the exam.
@txjennah that was my third time so I can not take the exam before a year. Thank you. I wish you all the best in October.

 
Failed Transportation with a 40/80.

AM: 19

PM: 21
Second attempt: Passed!!!  The afternoon  portion went so much more smoothly and carried me to a win this time!  I’m sure I also did better on the Project Planning, Structural, and Site Development parts.  Was in a much better rhythm and much more organized this time around.

 
I'm awful at air and water, but can provide some value for the 3 remediation questions you'll see on the exam.
3 remediation questions, lol... 

Hey @timmer1026, just now seeing this. Thanks for the advice!  I won't wait until three kids to take the exam, but am kicking myself for waiting 10 years after graduating to do so :)   I've struggled with air the most.  I'll take a look at the ASCE course, I can take it for free through my company. Thanks again :) 
Yes, the air portion of the the ASCE course was excellent, definitely take it.  Congrats on the marriage and wish you the best in October as well! 

 
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