I'd like to suggest to NCEES...

[csb]

I really don't understand all of the secrecy surrounding the passing score. We are engineers, so we are naturally curious about the numbers behind something. It almost seems like they are trying to piss us off by withholding raw scores, curves, and now they won't even give us any type of score on the exam. I know that my letter from the Indiana board when I passed the FE had 78% written in pencil on the top of it. What harm would it do to officially include raw score, curved score, passing score, and pass rate on the letters?

Hmm...that's funny, my board wrote "failed" on my letter....

 

[MA_PE]

What is easy to you may be difficult for others and visa versa.

Gosh. I wish I had said that.

Since the individual knowledge base of the test takers is variable, how could possibly so this? What might be "easy" for some people is "difficult" for others and vice-versa.

 

[EM_PS]

Knowing that NCEES agents monitor this website, I'd like to suggest the following:
1. At this time in the 21st century, NCEES must find a way to post our results in advance on their web site: "PASS" or "Failed".

2. Problems on the exam should be placed beginning with the easy ones, in order of difficulty from 1 to 40 (AM & PM).

Agree on point 1, have problem w/ point 2. I do like problems sprinkled around - gives you a bit of a breather between complex 'set it up / draw a picture' type of probs, and the 5 - 10 second type of probs (I'm not talking PE exam). Plus, my gray matter kicks ass in the a.m., but by the p.m., its draggin' ass. If I knew as the test grinds on that my probs are only gonna get tuffer. . . I might as well sneak a half-pint of Beam in & dull the pain!

 

[IlPadrino]

I think that if the NCEES is going to use this forum to track down cases of cheating and/or collusion, they should also contribute to the forum by answering questions about the exam. For instance, they could explain the thought process behind not holding a meeting to set the pass score until the middle of May. Or perhaps shed some more light on their determination of the passing score.

Well, if you really want to know, volunteer with NCEES. The link is on their website...

 

[T_McK_PE]

Makes no difference to me - I look forward to the challenge!

 

[PEPG]

I agree totally. There's no magic order to them. Do one, focus on it, move onto the next one. Come back if you have time. Better than wasting time jumping around randomly or assigned a rank to it.


With the stormwater modeling questions, obviously. If you can tackle the hardest topic in CE first, the rest is in the bag!

I also agree. Acutally, I skipped an easy question which was one page away from a hard question. I did not remember I had skipped it until the 5 minute warning. Although it was easy, I was not able to finish it in less than 5 minutes, so I guessed.

Next time it will be 1 through 40 - no detours. (if there is a next time)

 

[Techie_Junkie_PE_LEED_AP]

1. I agree.

2. Comon. You're supposed to be an Engineer. Figure it out!

 

[C-Dog]

Gosh. I wish I had said that.

I guess I should read all the post :screwloose:

 

[MA_PE]

I guess I should read all the post :screwloose:

Maybe you did and you were just plagiarizing on a subconcious level. :dunno:

 

[DIZZEE]

I used the system that I read about (I am pretty sure on this forum). I took 6 or 7 minutes to read thru all the questions and rated them 1-3 and that worked great for me. For those preparing for the exam in October, hopfully I won't be joining you!, I think it is a personal preference. If you work the practice exams and feel that doing so could have helped, as I did, then do it. If not, don't.

 

[Vishal]

I received my passing result on PTOE test recently and what I liked about it was that it included the questions that I responded correctly (in %'s) subject-wise. It also included what is the low %, High % and mean 5 on each subject. Then it gave the %'s for the scaled score. This is so transparent, why can't NCEES do this? It is not like breaching any security or anything. We pay some $200 for the test. I know it is for administering and scoring the test, but they don't have to generate the data, they already have it. Theu just don't publish it.

By having the %'s I could see where I stood compared to the high score and compared to the average score...

I know this will result in to nothing, but just wanted to put up the point.

 

[al***vj]

Received letter. No score. Just "you passed".

 

[IndyIllini]

I received my passing result on PTOE test recently and what I liked about it was that it included the questions that I responded correctly (in %'s) subject-wise. It also included what is the low %, High % and mean 5 on each subject. Then it gave the %'s for the scaled score. This is so transparent, why can't NCEES do this? It is not like breaching any security or anything. We pay some $200 for the test. I know it is for administering and scoring the test, but they don't have to generate the data, they already have it. Theu just don't publish it.
By having the %'s I could see where I stood compared to the high score and compared to the average score...

I know this will result in to nothing, but just wanted to put up the point.