CIVIL TRANSPORTATION DEPTH

[cromag]

Thank you guys for the detailed analysis.

I am pretty much shot right now, having a hard time getting back into it after that horror show.

 

[DVINNY]

FAILED
BREADTH

environmental 50 4/8

geotechnical 25 2/8

structural 75 6/8

transportation 50 4/8

water resources 88 7/8

DEPTH

traffic analysis 40 4/10

transportation planning/construction 57 4/7

geometric design/traffic safety 44 4/9

geotechnical 50 3/6

water resources 50 4/8

42/80

 

[DVINNY]

Trans breakdown
BR ENV- 75% 6/8

BR Geo- 63% 5/8

BR Str- 75% 6/8

BR Trans- 63 % 5/8

BR WR- 75% 6/8

Tran anal-60 % 6/10

Trans Plan- 43 % 3/7

Geo/Design- 56% 5/9

Geotech- 50% 3/6

WR- 75 % 6/8

Equals fail

51/80

 

[Road Guy]

wow looks like shooting for 55 is probably the best bet.

thats why I think my only saving grace was taking in lots of extra books for the AM section, dont rely on guessing in the AM if you can help it.

Those "folks" at NCEES/ELS have memorized the CERM, they know what AM qualitative questions to ask that are not in the CERM!

 

[cromag]

wow looks like shooting for 55 is probably the best bet.
thats why I think my only saving grace was taking in lots of extra books for the AM section, dont rely on guessing in the AM if you can help it.

Those "folks" at NCEES/ELS have memorized the CERM, they know what AM qualitative questions to ask that are not in the CERM!

 

[cromag]

I dont know whether to laugh or cry , as it seems I was truly one point away.

Good grief. I think the new goal is to shot for 100%

 

[Mike in Gastonia]

I dont know whether to laugh or cry , as it seems I was truly one point away.Good grief. I think the new goal is to shot for 100%

You actually raise a good point. Don't go into your next round of studying with the notion that you only have to get one more right! Remember, if it is a somewhat easier exam, they may raise the cut score to compensate. Good luck!

 

[Road Guy]

correct, the test I failed in April was much easier than the test I passed in October (if that makes any sense at all)

I imagine people retain about half of the previous exams study time at best.

And my new philosophy on the PE Exam:

1. Did you bring the book this problem covers to the exam

2. Are you familiar with the book to find information quickly (tab ALL your books indexes)

3. Can you use an index and or plug & chug

I honestly believe #1 & #2 are harder than #3

 

[tmckeon_PE]

I agree with Tom's analysis for the AM - you made a 28.
I think for the PM, though, you made a 23. Using the NCEES spec and your numbers, you obviously got 3/6 for Geotech and 6/8 for WR. To figure out the other 3, you know that the total number of questions equal 26 (65% of 40), so you made:

Tran anal - either 3/5, 6/10, 9/15 or 12/20 (all are 60%)

Tran Plan - either 3/7, 6/14, or 9/21 (all are 43%)

Geo/Design - either 5/9 or 10/18 (all are 56%)

For geo/design, if you made 10/18 you would only have 8 questions between the other two and there is no combo of 8, so for geo/design you made 5/9.

That means for the other two, you have to have a combo of 17 questions and the only available combo is 6/10 for tran anal and 3/7 for tran plan, so for the afternoon you made:

Tran anal-60 % 6/10

Trans Plan- 43 % 3/7

Geo/Design- 56% 5/9

Geotech- 50% 3/6

WR- 75 % 6/8

for a total of 23 in the PM and a 51 for a total on the entire exam. I think that's the highest we've seen without passing, so the cut score must have been 52. I'm sure you'll get it next time - good luck!

There was a math error in one of the equations I used. Posted late at night and didn't see it.

TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO 							
		Approx %	Approx # probs	Approx # correct	Weighted avg.		
ENV	75%	20.00%	8.00	6.00	15.00%		2.00
GEO	63%	20.00%	8.00	5.04	12.60%		2.96
STR	75%	20.00%	8.00	6.00	15.00%		2.00
TRAN	63%	20.00%	8.00	5.04	12.60%		2.96
WR	75%	20.00%	8.00	6.00	15.00%		2.00
Morning total correct				28.08	70.20%		11.92
		Approx %					
Trans Anal	63%	33.00%	8.67	5.46	20.79%		3.21
Trans Plan	63%	33.00%	8.67	5.46	20.79%		3.21
Geo/Design	33%	33.00%	8.67	2.86	10.89%		5.81


Trans Average	53%	65.00%	26.00	13.78	34.45%		12.22

Geo	50%	15.00%	6.00	3.00	7.50%		3.00
WR	75%	20.00%	8.00	6.00	15.00%		2.00

OVERALL PM SUMMARY				22.78	56.95%		17.22

OVERALL TEST SUMMARY				50.86	63.58%

 

[tmckeon_PE]

QUOTE(cromag @ Jan 21 2007, 07:59 AM)

Trans breakdown

BR ENV- 75% 6/8

BR Geo- 63% 5/8

BR Str- 75% 6/8

BR Trans- 63 % 5/8

BR WR- 75% 6/8

Tran anal-60 % 6/10

Trans Plan- 43 % 3/7

Geo/Design- 56% 5/9

Geotech- 50% 3/6

WR- 75 % 6/8

Equals fail

51/80

My calcs agree with DVINNY

TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO TRANSPO 							
		Approx %	Approx # probs	Approx # correct	Weighted avg.		
ENV	75%	20.00%	8.00	6.00	15.00%		2.00
GEO	63%	20.00%	8.00	5.04	12.60%		2.96
STR	75%	20.00%	8.00	6.00	15.00%		2.00
TRAN	63%	20.00%	8.00	5.04	12.60%		2.96
WR	75%	20.00%	8.00	6.00	15.00%		2.00
Morning total correct				28.08	70.20%		11.92
		Approx %					
Trans Anal	60%	33.00%	8.67	5.20	19.80%		3.47
Trans Plan	43%	33.00%	8.67	3.73	14.19%		4.94
Geo/Design	56%	33.00%	8.67	4.85	18.48%		3.81


Trans Average	53%	65.00%	26.00	13.78	34.45%		12.22

Geo	50%	15.00%	6.00	3.00	7.50%		3.00
WR	75%	20.00%	8.00	6.00	15.00%		2.00

OVERALL PM SUMMARY				22.78	56.95%		17.22

OVERALL TEST SUMMARY				50.86	63.58%