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[sschell_PE]

I did a search and could not find a previous topic on this..

personally I am in the 41-50 hour category (typ)


It would be interesting if we could corellate this to pay scale and dicipline, but I'm not smart enough to know how to do that...

[Polysloman]

I did a search and could not find a previous topic on this..

personally I am in the 41-50 hour category (typ)

Same here I work longer to get more done, stay employed and a bonus. I'm willing to more on weekends but my lady and six year old girl won't let me.

[snickerd3]

There was a poll like this a ways back...maybe it didn't make the move.

How many hours you work? 37.5, sometime more when traveling but that is usually paid as comp time
How many hours do you really work? 37.5
For how many hours do you get paid? 37.5

[Dark Knight]

Maybe we should re-make the poll and ask

How many hours you work?
How many hours do you really work?
For how many hours do you get paid?

[jregieng]

^^^ That's a good idea

How many hours you work? ~50 hrs per week depending on travel schedule
How many hours do you really work? 40 hrs per week contracted (limited comp time available for OT)
For how many hours do you get paid? Strictly 40 hrs per week

JR

[udpolo15]

How many hours you work? - 40 - 50
How many hours do you really work?~40 hr. i am probably about 90% efficient when I have work to do
For how many hours do you get paid? 40, but they say bonuses will make up for it. this year will be a test to that. i billed about 2100 and another 400 of overhead hours. if my bonus isn't substantially higher than in years past, I'll know it is bs.

[TouchDown]

How many hours you work? - 45 - 50 - NOT including the computer time on weekends, if that... then probably close to 55
How many hours do you really work? ~45, I do have some social interactions at work to break the tension... I'm not 100% focused all the time.
For how many hours do you get paid? we don't do billable hours. I am strictly salaried. My boss says his expectation is 45 hours per week. On top of that, I'm on call (with pager) 24x7. I'm on required response to plant emergencies 1 weekend every 2 months on a rotation.

[jfusilloPE]

How many hours you work? ~ I am typically at the office about 50 hours per week, but I answer alot of e-mails from home in the later hours of the day...so I work between 50 - 55. If you add in the teaching (3 nights per week this semester), I am at about 65.

How many hours do you really work? ~ That is a very loaded question...I probably put about a 90% effort into my day, so about 45 - 50 before teaching (I put 100% into that)

For how many hours do you get paid? ~ Salary at the office, but we do get comp time. Teaching is contracted, so I get paid by the semester hour per class.

[bigray76]

How many hours you work? - My hours vary week to week... some weeks it is 40, some weeks it is 70; more often than not I am in the 51 - 60 range.

How many hours do you really work? Other than the time I am online here, I am working all the time. I probably make up for my down time at work (water cooler, EB.com, etc.) with all of the calls I take on my cell and checking my email from home.


For how many hours do you get paid? We are salaried, but technically my pay stub shows 40 hours a week. Most of my work is not billable anyway so it doesn't matter.

[ktulu]

How many hours do you work? Depending on whether I am in the office or in the field, this varies, but I average 40-45 hours a week.

How many hours do you really work? I'm in the same boat with Ray on this one. I do a bit of email checking, etc from home, so I really work close to 40-45 hours oer week.

For how many hours do you get paid? I get paid for 40 hours, but accrue comp time after 48 hours worked per week.

ktulu

[z06dustin]

At work: 40
At school: 30

[wilheldp_PE]

I would say that 90% of us fall into the "I'm insane!" category...but not because of the number of hours we put in at work.

[Santiagj]

I try to work a 42-43 hour week. I don't get paid OT or recieve comptime. I just do it because its just a little bit of effort that shows during my performance reviews.

[VTEnviro]

Peter Gibbons: Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late, ah, I use the side door - that way Lumbergh can't see me, heh heh - and, uh, after that I just sorta space out for about an hour.

Bob Porter: Da-uh? Space out?

Peter Gibbons: Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

[jeb6294]

I'm not sure which one I'm supposed to pick....

I'm Gov't so normally during the week it is strictly 40 hours. Last time I was out on a project it was 13 straight 10-hour days with every other Sunday off so I was doing 65 hours a week. The standard week if/when I get deployed is 65 hours a week (10-hrs Sat thru Thur and 5-hrs on Fri) but, from what I hear, it tends to be even more than that.

How many hours do I really work? Like I said. I'm Gov't....

[ALBin517]

Peter Gibbons: Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late, ah, I use the side door - that way Lumbergh can't see me, heh heh - and, uh, after that I just sorta space out for about an hour.

Bob Porter: Da-uh? Space out?

Peter Gibbons: Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual work.

I was waiting for that response.

[PA_Mining_Engr]

In indsutry it was about 60 hrs, but I saw the light and took a govy job, not its 40.....period!

[jeb6294]

In indsutry it was about 60 hrs, but I saw the light and took a govy job, not its 40.....period!

I suppose I should specify...any time I have over 40 hours is overtime which is a little odd with the Gov't. For anyone below a GS-10/Step 1 you get time-and-a-half. For people who are higher than a GS-10/Step 1 your OT is calculated as 1.5 times the hourly rate for a GS-10/Step 1. That is what my OT rate will be until the day that I move up to a GS-12/Step 6 at which point my regular hourly rate will be higher than the 1.5x GS-10 rate so my OT will be my regular hourly rate. I have no idea where they came up with that, but that's what it is.

Considering I've got a few Engineering friends in Cincy who are expected to work 50-60 hours a week but are only allowed to bill for 40, I'm not going to complain.

In addition to my regular OT, on holidays you also get 2x your hourly rate for regular hours and a 25% bonus for regular hours on Sundays. That'll be big when I'm overseas and you're working every Sunday and probably every holiday.

[jeb6294]

I suppose I should specify...any time I have over 40 hours is overtime which is a little odd with the Gov't. For anyone below a GS-10/Step 1 you get time-and-a-half. For people who are higher than a GS-10/Step 1 your OT is calculated as 1.5 times the hourly rate for a GS-10/Step 1. That is what my OT rate will be until the day that I move up to a GS-12/Step 6 at which point my regular hourly rate will be higher than the 1.5x GS-10 rate so my OT will be my regular hourly rate. I have no idea where they came up with that, but that's what it is.

Can you put this into some sort of graph or table? I have no idea what you're talking about.

The GS grades and steps are just the Govt's fancy way of sorting out the hierarchy....

Just as an example an Engineering Tech would probably be a GS-10. I am a GS-11 Project Engineer, but withe my new job I will be jumping up to a GS-12. The steps are just little increments (there are ten) you can jump up between grades that are pretty much just based on your time in service. When I started I was a GS-11 Step 1, after I had been here for one year I jumped up to a GS-11 Step 2.

[FLBuff PE]

The GS grades and steps are just the Govt's fancy way of sorting out the hierarchy....

Just as an example an Engineering Tech would probably be a GS-10. I am a GS-11 Project Engineer, but withe my new job I will be jumping up to a GS-12. The steps are just little increments (there are ten) you can jump up between grades that are pretty much just based on your time in service. When I started I was a GS-11 Step 1, after I had been here for one year I jumped up to a GS-11 Step 2.

To quote Lewis Black: "I don't understand your GD number system!"

[wilheldp_PE]

Ass Clown Slater?

[Ble_PE]

Ass Clown Slater?

That's why it was always abbreviated. Duh!

[chaosiscash]

In the new job so far I've only been working 40, but I'm hoping as things get busier I can work 50's. I'm paid on the hour, so I wouldn't mind some OT.

[Dleg]

Pretty much 40 - state worker. But sometimes when I'm ambitious I'll work 50 or a little more, trying to finish up the resume-stuffer projects. But I am totally exempt from any overtime compensation.

[chaosiscash]

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of working for free. My first job out of school was "salary", meaning working weekend outages was uncompensated. I have pretty much vowed never to do that again unless I'm starving.

[Flyer_PE]

I told a boss once that, within reason, I would do whatever he wanted so long as I got paid for the time. The company isn't a charitable organization and neither am I.

[Kephart P.E.]

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of working for free. My first job out of school was "salary", meaning working weekend outages was uncompensated. I have pretty much vowed never to do that again unless I'm starving.

My first job was like this too, it didn't bother me much because anything over 4 hours was paid or given comp time. So it really depends on the company.

[MechGuy]

I'm about the same as DexMan. I get paid for 40 hrs, no matter how many I put in. If I am traveling alot, that can add up to a 60-70 hr workweek if you count travel time as working. But I usually average around 40-45 hours or so.

[humner]

How many hours you work? 35 per week
How many hours do you really work? In the winter 20, mostly paperwork, other 3 seasons 30 hours
For how many hours do you get paid? 35 per week

And this children is why as a government employee, I see the waste first hand. As a Union worker, way too much waste is out there. When I was in private sector, worked 40 hours per week, got paid for 40 hours per week.
Big government=Bad
Small government=Good
Big government with Union= Really Bad

[mizzoueng]

How many hours you work? 40-60/week
How many hours do you really work? 30-40(more during outages)
For how many hours do you get paid? 40, I get OT (only paid ST though) if approved but its frowned upon and can be a reason to reduce performance based bonuses.

[Vishal]

uncompensated salery postions (unless the salery positions are 100$ an hour for 40 hrs)...... I have never had to take one of these uncompensated salery postions

You sure it's not "celery"? I am sure with your expertise you can get 100/hour - celery, of course!!

[Ble_PE]

uncompensated salery postions (unless the salery positions are 100$ an hour for 40 hrs)...... I have never had to take one of these uncompensated salery postions

You sure it's not "celery"? I am sure with your expertise you can get 100/hour - celery, of course!!

That's exactly what I think of every time he writes that!

[Ble_PE]

[wilheldp_PE]

How do you feed your kids on less than 100k a year, it must be very hard (unless your wife works and makes the same or close to the same as you putting your combined income above 100k, but then the day care would eat you alive unless your mom watchs them but then you are in a very percarious situation relying on 2 jobs and mom just to make ends meet). I struggle just with my condo, student loans and basic bills at 80k a year with no kids. You must live in an area that has a SIGNIFICANTLY lower cost of living.

No, you are just living above your means. You seem to be a complete idiot with your money, among other things, so even if you were to find a job making "fatty" money, you'd still have trouble making ends meet.

[Flyer_PE]

How do you feed your kids on less than 100k a year, it must be very hard (unless your wife works and makes the same or close to the same as you putting your combined income above 100k, but then the day care would eat you alive unless your mom watchs them but then you are in a very percarious situation relying on 2 jobs and mom just to make ends meet). I struggle just with my condo, student loans and basic bills at 80k a year with no kids. You must live in an area that has a SIGNIFICANTLY lower cost of living.

A little advanced math here:

Income = 80k
+Marital Status = Single
+Financial Status = "..struggle just with my condo, student loans and basic bills.."
= Financial acumen roughly equivalent to that of my 5 year old son.

[Supe]

How do you feed your kids on less than 100k a year, it must be very hard (unless your wife works and makes the same or close to the same as you putting your combined income above 100k, but then the day care would eat you alive unless your mom watchs them but then you are in a very percarious situation relying on 2 jobs and mom just to make ends meet). I struggle just with my condo, student loans and basic bills at 80k a year with no kids. You must live in an area that has a SIGNIFICANTLY lower cost of living.

What kind of toilet paper do you use? Gold leaf?


When I was still making less than $60k a year, I was living comfortably in Houston city limits (8.25% sales tax) paying rent, two car payments, insurance, "fun money", and was still banking close to 40% of what I was making.

[Supe]

Car payments, plus rent and utilities set me back approximately $19,200 a year. Gas was maybe $120 a month. Add another $150 or so for food. Even after taxes, medical, and 401k contributions, that's still a sizable chunk of change to play with. I sure bought more than some video games...

Also, I'm not too terribly concerned with safety net income. Unless no new power plants, coal, nuclear, co-gen, or otherwise are planned, constructed, or maintained for the next 8 years or so, I'm safely nuzzled into a niche specialty area with plenty of fall backs.

[Ble_PE]

Hookers and blow?

[wilheldp_PE]

The problem is that does not give you 1-2 years of safety net income which is needed in this economy,

You really have no connection with reality, do you? Most people have a few months (6 months max) safety net, if they have anything at all. Our country as a whole had a negative savings rate for about the last decade, so the majority have a safety net of several thousand dollars worth of debt.

I think most of us have a long-term goal of having house/car/airplane/boat paid off, putting thousands away in retirement savings every month, and having a large "fun money" pool to draw from...but most of us are realistic that this isn't going to be a reality throughout much of our 20s, 30s, or even 40s or 50s. You seem to be under the illusion that this shit just happens because you have a fancy degree.

My fingers just needed some exercise. I know none of this is going to make it through your thick skull.

[Supe]

Hookers and blow?

Am I that easy to read?

[MechGuy]

You seem to be a complete idiot with your money, among other things, so even if you were to find a job making "fatty" money, you'd still have trouble making ends meet.

Wil -- you hit the nail on the head. What a Maroon.