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Wow, there's some serious Haterade on this topic, sorry I probed into such a sensitive issue. Next time I'll limit my questions to the easy and pain free topics like whether putting a mosque at ground zero is a good idea or whether gays should marry or serve in the military.

 
Wow, there's some serious Haterade on this topic, sorry I probed into such a sensitive issue. Next time I'll limit my questions to the easy and pain free topics like whether putting a mosque at ground zero is a good idea or whether gays should marry or serve in the military.
:banhim:

 
Next time I'll limit my questions to the easy and pain free topics like whether putting a mosque at ground zero is a good idea or whether gays should marry or serve in the military.
THose are questions that are matters of opinion, not questions that have been answered probably 1000 times on here, or that don't have answers that can be found on the NCEES website, and in the FAQs on "the other board" for that matter.

Plus, the test passing score question is one that seems to engender "Elvis lives" enthusiasts who all seem to have some inside scoop on the cut score. Only NCEES, and the people that participate in setting the cut score know, and they are not supposed to spill the beans.

Seriously, if someone just asked I would not be annoyed to explain to them. or point them to NCEES. It is the plethora of theories assserted as fact that bother me.

 
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Seriously, if someone just asked I would not be annoyed to explain to them. or point them to NCEES. It is the plethora of theories assserted as fact that bother me.
If that's your irritation, blame NCEES for creating a shroud of mystery to make a multiple choice exam something more than it really is.

 
Seriously, if someone just asked I would not be annoyed to explain to them. or point them to NCEES. It is the plethora of theories assserted as fact that bother me.
If that's your irritation, blame NCEES for creating a shroud of mystery to make a multiple choice exam something more than it really is.
THere's no mystery. They explain the whole process, they just don't release the exact passing score, and they make that pretty clear. I don't expect engineers to just make up passing percentages and claim they are fact.

We've all been through it. Do the best you can and quit worrying about it. I bet most people couldn't even accurately state exactly how many they got correct right after walking out of the exam, so what difference does it make?

 
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Wow, there's some serious Haterade on this topic, sorry I probed into such a sensitive issue. Next time I'll limit my questions to the easy and pain free topics like whether putting a mosque at ground zero is a good idea or whether gays should marry or serve in the military.
:banhim:
Don't you have to see if I weigh the same as a duck first?

 
Seriously, if someone just asked I would not be annoyed to explain to them. or point them to NCEES. It is the plethora of theories assserted as fact that bother me.
If that's your irritation, blame NCEES for creating a shroud of mystery to make a multiple choice exam something more than it really is.
THere's no mystery. They explain the whole process, they just don't release the exact passing score, and they make that pretty clear. I don't expect engineers to just make up passing percentages and claim they are fact.

We've all been through it. Do the best you can and quit worrying about it. I bet most people couldn't even accurately state exactly how many they got correct right after walking out of the exam, so what difference does it make?
I'm not worried about it. I was simply asking a question to clarify what Bean said earlier and it got all worked up in here like I said bomb on an airplane. If it's such a sensitive issue, make it a sticky and dont cut people's nads off because they're trying to learn how the process works.

The NCEES scoring definition is about as clear as mud and a lot of test takers find comfort in the fact that they know that there's a minimum standard required to pass, not this nebulous "we'll move our cut score around" stuff. There is really no reason other than this mystery aura creation that NCEES cant just come out and say "Our cut score varies based on the statistical results of the exam and an evaluation of minimum standards, and has historically averaged around X."

 
considering this forum is dedicated to the PE test and how to pass it, asking for the passing score was not too off-topic. But maybe I ask on an IT or car board if they know... since it doesn't seem to be appropriate here... :mf_followthroughfart:

We know there isn't a definite answer thanks to NCEES being so secretive. but i was hoping to find out if getting 70% right is safe to pass (and NCEES does some magic, so that in reality 65% or so will let you pass too)

And yes, most people asking this questions have searched, googled and everything. We also searched on how that was handled years ago when NCEES also gave more information than just pass/fail.

Since passing the test is the whole purpose, it seems to be a legit question to me how much is needed to pass... If you don't know the answer, just don't reply and ignore our stupid question. I bet anything, before you passed you were as curious as we are. I was hoping for someone to reply who has some better idea.

 
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I'm not worried about it. I was simply asking a question to clarify what Bean said earlier and it got all worked up in here like I said bomb on an airplane a plane could not take off from a conveyor.
fixed it for you. :p

 
The NCEES scoring definition is about as clear as mud and a lot of test takers find comfort in the fact that they know that there's a minimum standard required to pass, not this nebulous "we'll move our cut score around" stuff.
How is that comforting? If you know if need a 67 or 72 or the square root of Pittsburgh or any other random number, you are probably going to:

1 - Focus on hitting that number instead of trying to answer every question right. Oh, I only need a raw score of X, so I can just gloss over wastewater since I can nail the other sections. Then you get a couple of tough ones on construction wrong and fail. And,

2 - Go mad during the test. Did I get this one right, did I get that one right, I know I need X but I'm only sure I'm at Y so far.

Just go in there, sit down, and do your best on each problem. It doesn't matter how many points you pass or fail by. I've never met someone with special Super-PE powers because the aced the test or someone who got his hands cut off for bombing it.

 
considering this forum is dedicated to the PE test and how to pass it, asking for the passing score was not too off-topic. But maybe I ask on an IT or car board if they know... since it doesn't seem to be appropriate here... :mf_followthroughfart:
We know there isn't a definite answer thanks to NCEES being so secretive. but i was hoping to find out if getting 70% right is safe to pass (and NCEES does some magic, so that in reality 65% or so will let you pass too)

And yes, most people asking this questions have searched, googled and everything. We also searched on how that was handled years ago when NCEES also gave more information than just pass/fail.

Since passing the test is the whole purpose, it seems to be a legit question to me how much is needed to pass... If you don't know the answer, just don't reply and ignore our question. I bet anything, before you passed you were as curious as we are. I was hoping for someone to reply who has some better idea.
It's not that it's an off topic question, it has just been asked over and over and over and over and over and over...

If you search the board you are sure to find it.

 
considering this forum is dedicated to the PE test and how to pass it, asking for the passing score was not too off-topic. But maybe I ask on an IT or car board if they know... since it doesn't seem to be appropriate here... :mf_followthroughfart:
We know there isn't a definite answer thanks to NCEES being so secretive. but i was hoping to find out if getting 70% right is safe to pass (and NCEES does some magic, so that in reality 65% or so will let you pass too)

And yes, most people asking this questions have searched, googled and everything. We also searched on how that was handled years ago when NCEES also gave more information than just pass/fail.

Since passing the test is the whole purpose, it seems to be a legit question to me how much is needed to pass... If you don't know the answer, just don't reply and ignore our question. I bet anything, before you passed you were as curious as we are. I was hoping for someone to reply who has some better idea.
It's not that it's an off topic question, it has just been asked over and over and over and over and over and over...

If you search the board you are sure to find it.
This is the problem with internet forums, the same questions come up over and over. It's the nature of the beast. People either dont search and ask or they do search and they are not satisfied with the answers and ask again. If you dont want to answer it or read it, then dont. It is counterproductive to chastise people who are looking for knowledge just because you don't like what is being answered. There's plenty of other sections on this board to carry on all the other conversations you want.

When I say you, I dont mean you, I mean the collective you that is all the people who responded with daggers instead of something constructive.

 
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