NCEES Watch

[GTScott]

Anyone recall the CE PE pass rate from last April's test? I was thinking it was a bit lower.

-GT

 

[MetroRAFB]

I still think they pass more of the disciplines that there are fewer takers in. Petroleum = 93% ??? Naval Architecture = 81%???? Mining and Mineral= 84%??? Smells a bit fishy but what do I know? Fire Protection probably doesn't have many takers either and their percentage was the worst so that kind of blows my theory. :dunno:

 

[benbo]

http://www.ppi2pass.com/"thehttp://www.ppi2pass.com/"the other board"/PPIInfo_pg_myp...epassrates.html

It was 66% in April, 64% now.

 

[MEinNC]

70% for mechanical. I'm not going to be feeling very good if I fail this one. :hung:

 

[MetroRAFB]

What did you think of the exam MEinNC?

 

[3gorgesdam]

only 64% for Civil...why?

 

[MEinNC]

Not to jinx myself but I felt really good about it. I came up with what I thought was a very strong answer for every question in the morning session. The afternoon session was quite a bit more difficult for me. But I only had to guess on a few questions. It wasn't as bad as what I had prepared for.

I just knocked on some wood! :true:

 

[DVINNY]

http://www.ncees.org/exams/pass_rates/

 

[Viper]

70% for mechanical. I'm not going to be feeling very good if I fail this one. :hung:

Look at it from the positive side, there's a better chance that you passed. But, I know what you mean. I'm still dreading my results.

 

[Viper]

Not to jinx myself but I felt really good about it. I came up with what I thought was a very strong answer for every question in the morning session. The afternoon session was quite a bit more difficult for me. But I only had to guess on a few questions. It wasn't as bad as what I had prepared for.
I just knocked on some wood! :true:

By the way, MEinNC, what depth did you take?

 

[MEinNC]

I took the HVAC depth session. It was what i know best since I do it everyday. But even then most of it is stuff that I've never seen during the course of actual production work over the past 6 years.

 

[Viper]

I took the HVAC depth session. It was what i know best since I do it everyday. But even then most of it is stuff that I've never seen during the course of actual production work over the past 6 years.

Too bad we only have three depths to choose from. It would be nice to have as many as Civil does. I took thermal and fluid systems. It seemed most appropriate since I do gas turbine stuff. Still keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[purduegrad]

Pass rates posted on ncees, it appears that the pass rate is less than in april's exam. I still don't know which end of the pass rates I am on. The wait is killer.

PE is limbo!!!!!

 

[goldnwhite]

70% for mechanical. I'm not going to be feeling very good if I fail this one. :hung:

Same here. I'm still afraid to start thinking one way or the other before I see the results. Not wanting to jinx anything.

rayers:

 

[petermcc]

Wow...the structural 1 exam rates are so much better this time around!!!

:whatever: :whatever:

I live in hope... :mail:

 

[Bminer]

I still think they pass more of the disciplines that there are fewer takers in. Petroleum = 93% ??? Naval Architecture = 81%???? Mining and Mineral= 84%??? Smells a bit fishy but what do I know? Fire Protection probably doesn't have many takers either and their percentage was the worst so that kind of blows my theory. :dunno:

I took the mining exam. I think the high pass rate is a result of the number of examinees (usually less than 30) and the format. The mining exam covers a broad range of topics, none of which go into much depth. In the mining consulting business, you have to be a jack-of-all-trades. There just isn't enough work to specialize in any one area. The petroleum exam is set up the same way. I won't exactly say the mining exam is easy, but as far as the exam is concerned I'm glad I'm not a structural or mechanical engineer.

 

[JoeFromKS]

Not to jinx myself but I felt really good about it.  I came up with what I thought was a very strong answer for every question in the morning session.  The afternoon session was quite a bit more difficult for me.  But I only had to guess on a few questions.  It wasn't as bad as what I had prepared for.
I just knocked on some wood!  :true:

I felt the same as MEinNC about the exam but did not pass (I refuse to say that I failed).

Based on the passing percentages (34% for re-takers), does this mean that for re-takers the odds are greater for not passing again than for passing?

This doesn't make sense to me. Logic tells me that re-takers should be passing at a higher rate than 34%.

Can anyone offer any insight??

 

[MetroRAFB]

Not to jinx myself but I felt really good about it.? I came up with what I thought was a very strong answer for every question in the morning session.? The afternoon session was quite a bit more difficult for me.? But I only had to guess on a few questions.? It wasn't as bad as what I had prepared for.
I just knocked on some wood!? :true:

I felt the same as MEinNC about the exam but did not pass (I refuse to say that I failed).

Based on the passing percentages (34% for re-takers), does this mean that for re-takers the odds are greater for not passing again than for passing?

This doesn't make sense to me. Logic tells me that re-takers should be passing at a higher rate than 34%.

Can anyone offer any insight??

That has never made sense to me either. It seems to suggest that those who fail the first time are much more likely to continue failing. That just doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Of the three PE's I know very well personally and/or work with every day, I'm the only one that passed on the first attempt. One of those is my best friend from engineering school who was always a much better student than I was in school. He has also designed HVAC systems every single day since graduation for a living, where I didn't have the benefit of working directly within any of the three afternoon module subject areas. Each of the three made it on the second attempt. The low retake percentages NCEES reports just don't pass the smell test to me.

:true:

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

This doesn't make sense to me. Logic tells me that re-takers should be passing at a higher rate than 34%.
Can anyone offer any insight??

1. The whiz kids will pass it the first time.

2. People that haven't prepared properly and have poor study habits are less likely to pass and probably won't unless they change their approach.

3. People that don't put in the necessary time and effort are less likely pass and probably won't unless they devote more of themselves to doing so.

The repeat passers are the ones who were a question or two short, or the ones who were able to adapt.

 

[tmckeon_PE]

I liked and agree with VTE's response. I didn't make it the first time, because of preparedness issues (didn't get the 10th CERM til the day before the exam, nor did I order the six min sols til close to the exam and didn't really start looking at things til close to the exam), pride and time management issues. Still only missed "by that much!".

Wasn't able to study much for the next exam, but took the lessons learned and the test was actually easy (left both morning and afternoon sessions early).

If I had done things more appropriately in the first case, I would have passed easily, but, for the reasons mentioned, I missed it the first time.

Most first timer misses are not because of these reasons.

:true: