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I should be picking my bike up from the shop within the next couple of days after having them do a complete drive-train overhaul. I haven't ridden that thing in 15+ years. Tech says it should ride better than it did when new (purchased in early 90's)

 
Our plan, at this point, is to have the house paid off about the time the kid goes to college. We can just start sending that money over the hill. Our state also has a pretty impressive incentive program to keep kids in-state. Cheap tuition and almost guaranteed scholarships have taken a lot of pressure off of college planning. Also, while my parents paid my way, I was glad they made me pay off the small loans I had and pay for extras.

 
Too many things the parents are "supposed" to buy for their kids now. I will support them where I can, but don't expect me to buy them a car and pay for their college. They can get a job just like I did.
The Mrs. and I have been setting aside a little bit each month for each of the kids into a savings account (not enough to start investing in anything yet as we are trying to finish off our own loans as quickly as possible) Our approach will be to make them struggle through school and work while building up debt just like we did without telling them that we have been saving for their future. When they finish school, I plan to pay for as much of it as we can with the amount that we have set aside for each of them. I'm not sure how this will time out since there are 6 years between the oldest and the youngest so implementation has a few kinks to work out... Our philosophy: We are better for having to figure it out on our own, however, it sure would be nice to have someone help us finish off the school debt now that we've learned our life lessons...

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Our financial adviser said that a good plan to have if follow the "rule of thirds". Obviously this is dependent on which school is selected but, you can still come up with an estimated amount. Figure on saving 1/3 now, figure 1/3 from other sources (financial aid, scholarships, grants, etc.), 1/3 contributed by the kid. He said sometimes it can be a financial hardship to try and save it all at once in addition to your own bills/retirement saving. And he added what happens if the kid decides not to go to college altogether? Now you have all these savings built up that busted your butt to get and all for not. Either way I thought it was an interesting concept.

 
I have contemplated this myself. Let the boy join the military and convince the girls that they are baby makers.

 
My oldest made the comment that he already knows what he wants to do, just not quite yet decided which school he wants to go to: Air Force Academy or School of Mines (my Alma Mater). He is 9.

 
we have been using something called "UPromise" since our kids were born( 15+ years ago) it works like this.. your give yoru parents, grandparents a way to linc their credit card accounts and each time they make a purchase you get a small cut.. it does add up after a while, but each of our kids has at least $4 grand in it... obvioulsy not enough for 4 years but a little something..

it took my parents some convincing cause they are paranoid about credit card theft / online stuff. but it works pretty good, but again not as your only source but it is a little something...

http://www.upromise.com/welcome

If any of you big spenders would like to enroll (for my kids) let me know ;)

 
And he added what happens if the kid decides not to go to college altogether? Now you have all these savings built up that busted your butt to get and all for not.
I'm genetically wired to beat the snot of out my progeny with a rice paddle if they even hint they're considering not going to college.

 
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College funding-- too many folks think that they "owe" their kids a college education. Nothing could be farther from the truth. YOU owe yourself a retirement, not the kids college education.

Interestingly, there is NOTHING WRONG with a "less prestigious" public state school--nothing. If the kid, when he/she is 13-14 thinks that they need to go to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, MIT, no problem-- strongly encourage them to do so. However, make sure that they understand that you and your spouse do NOT have the resources to send them, however, they have the ability and capability to work after school, breaks, summers to earn the necessary funds to attend those prestigious institutions.

I did my graduate work, initially, at the University of Spoiled Children (Southern California). Interestingly, I receive an alumni magazine every month-- they have an endowment that is now North of $2 Billion dollars-- 78% of all undergrads receive financial aid of some sort. I have a hard time convincing myself to donate to the endowment fund-- $2 Billion dollars is a LOT of money.

There is a lot of financial aid, scholarships and grants available-- you have to look and search, but they are available. The looking and searching should begin in the freshman year of high school and increase the focus and intent each year of high school, so that when the kid is a senior, he/she knows exactly where to apply and what to ask for. High tuition prestigious schools want just common ordinary kids as students also, and they have funding to help most kids.

However, at the end of the day, there is NOTHING wrong with the School of Mines, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State.................................etc.

Pay for your retirement first-- train the kids to save for college at 4-5 years old-- that means putting the money in the bank, not buying the latest toy, game or bubble gum. OK, some tears-- let the bawl it out, dry their eyes and go back to work. No emotions, let them bawl the first couple of times, however, they will get the idea and will become a willing participant in the program.

Other than my experience at USC, all of my education was at public state institutions other than the Naval War College!

 
My wife and I have been talking about college since our first was born. We plan to help them out as much as we can. She's a college counselor so she sees all the financial stuff first hand. We've slowly been trying to get our finances in order so we haven't even opened up a 529 for him yet. What is scary is that by the time he's ready to go to school, college will cost upwards of $100K per year.

Both my and her parents were poor when we attended college, so we didn't have a huge debt to pay after graduating. We're expecting we won't get any financial help though. Some of the ivy league schools have started adopting a tiered tuition based on what the parents make so there's that. I think for Harvard, if you make $150K or less, you're only paying 10% of your income for tuition.

In other news, we finally got my son potty trained. I still have to watch him when he goes though. The other day, I caught him sticking his hand in the toilet and touching the water... ewww. It's perfect timing though, especially with #2 coming in a couple of weeks.

 
Even state schools have become money grubbers, most make you buy a meal plan, make you live on campus wether you need to or not, all because some dean or president spent too much money on a cafeteria that wasnt needed... its really fucked up (IMO) ......

a regional college close to where I grew up, Kennesaw State University, it used to be a 2 year night school in the 80's...now its a large institution that wants a football team, and now they are charging folks ridiculous fee's for a stadium and team that current students dont even have... its just stupid fiedom building

I will help my kids pay for college, but they are going to particpate at or above the 50% level.... parents get duped into paying for their kids to take 3 classes a day and fuck off the other 21 hours of the day, NOT!!!!

 
Even state schools have become money grubbers, most make you buy a meal plan, make you live on campus wether you need to or not, all because some dean or president spent too much money on a cafeteria that wasnt needed... its really fucked up (IMO) ......

a regional college close to where I grew up, Kennesaw State University, it used to be a 2 year night school in the 80's...now its a large institution that wants a football team, and now they are charging folks ridiculous fee's for a stadium and team that current students dont even have... its just stupid fiedom building

I will help my kids pay for college, but they are going to particpate at or above the 50% level.... parents get duped into paying for their kids to take 3 classes a day and fuck off the other 21 hours of the day, NOT!!!!


Interesting points, I'm not sure about the state schools at all, but I imagine they are similar to private schools in that recruiting students is not always about the quality of education being provided (unless it's a larger school known for it's exceptional academics), you basically have to keep up with the other options available in order to continue to maintain enrollment levels, and go above and beyond in order to increase enrollment levels. Of course this means making calculated investments into things like additional dorms, football teams and cafeterias as well as the investments in trying to keep up with technology. I just looked it up and Kennesaw has about 20 times the number of students we have and nearly 4 million less in their endowment fund than us... plus it's getting ready to merge with another school next year, so that might be the motivation to start to create a football program?

 
Even state schools have become money grubbers, most make you buy a meal plan, make you live on campus wether you need to or not, all because some dean or president spent too much money on a cafeteria that wasnt needed... its really fucked up (IMO) ......

a regional college close to where I grew up, Kennesaw State University, it used to be a 2 year night school in the 80's...now its a large institution that wants a football team, and now they are charging folks ridiculous fee's for a stadium and team that current students dont even have... its just stupid fiedom building

I will help my kids pay for college, but they are going to particpate at or above the 50% level.... parents get duped into paying for their kids to take 3 classes a day and fuck off the other 21 hours of the day, NOT!!!!




Totally true. Shortly after I graduated college, my roomates at the time who were sophomores/juniors ended up moving off campus based on the fact that you HAD to buy a meal plan if you lived on campus. And the meal plan was absolutely absurd, something like $600/mo for the lower tier one.

 
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