FL civils: New fight with the architects looming

[ClemsonEngr]

Question for the Florida Civil Engineers. There is a new fight brewing with the Landscape architects. I don't know a whold lot about the problem, but apparently, some landscape architects are trying to sign and seal drainage calculations. FES is preparing for action, there have already been some face to face meetings. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it? I am tring to educate myself a little before our next board meeting..

 

[FINK_RB_PE]

We had a similar problem in VA with Soil Scientists wanting to design pumps, a little bit of lobbying and the board knocked that crap out! Here LA's are allowed to stamp plans but not calcs, I think that is kind of strange since they should act as a unit but they are allowed. I have heard that in NC they wanted to start stamping land surveys but I have not heard any more. Bottom Line - If you want to be an engineer, go to school to be an engineer!

 

[NSEARCH]

I haven't heard a lick about this and I'm very involved with ASCE here in Florida. My boss that I have worked for since I graduated is currently the ASCE Florida Section President.

 

[Dleg]

In my opinion, LAs have no business stamping drainage plans or calcs.

 

[Guest]

I haven't heard anything about this either but my experiences with 'development' are quite limited. I would be interested in the rationale as to why architects feel drainage calcs or drawings/design would be covered under thier practice even if they considered it 'incident to practice'.

JR

 

[NSEARCH]

I found out some more about this yesterday. This is nothing new. They have been trying to get this approved for several years. In fact a couple years ago it actually made it to the Florida Legislature floor but was declined.

I have no problem allowing architects signing and sealing drainage calculations as long as hydrology and hydraulics are part of their degree curriculum. In addition the math required to take hydraulics.