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Do you think the number of PEs will increase or decrease over the next 20 years here in the US? Will it become more or less important?
What are everyones thoughts?
What are everyones thoughts?
Some of the foriegn engineering degrees are equivalent to and 8th grade education which makes the problem worse. Some of the big corporation managers who have no knowledge or care what real engineers are only want large headcounts. Large headcount = promotion rather than promotions based on performance. You can't be a director with 5 producing ABET acredited degreed engineers, but you can be a director with 50 non-producing guys calling themselves engineers doing the same workload.most of the resumes we get from new grads are all requiring visas and the like, seems there just isnt much interest, sad really. also if ABET is going to start accrediting foreign schools, that may open the door to a different type of problem. I read somewhere for every 1 engineering degree awarded in this country there are more than 100 awarded in India alone!
How does all the design work that is outsourced get through all the regulatory and permitting agencies in the US without being signed and sealed by a licensed PE of the state where the work is being conducted?Some of the foriegn engineering degrees are equivalent to and 8th grade education which makes the problem worse. Some of the big corporation managers who have no knowledge or care what real engineers are only want large headcounts. Large headcount = promotion rather than promotions based on performance. You can't be a director with 5 producing ABET acredited degreed engineers, but you can be a director with 50 non-producing guys calling themselves engineers doing the same workload.most of the resumes we get from new grads are all requiring visas and the like, seems there just isnt much interest, sad really. also if ABET is going to start accrediting foreign schools, that may open the door to a different type of problem. I read somewhere for every 1 engineering degree awarded in this country there are more than 100 awarded in India alone!
Then this brings up the problem corporations outsourcing engineering work to firms overseas that aren't licensed in the US, and don't have PE's. Then since it takes someone to report this activity, how can this activity be audited and caught?
I worked on a few projects with this engineer from one of our other offices. He's a civil/structural. He knows his shit, and it's obvious he more than meets the requirements to be a PE.Some of the foriegn engineering degrees are equivalent to and 8th grade education which makes the problem worse.
I agree. The engineering community is becoming more technical and specialized all the time. The average person is becoming less and less likely to be able to get something designed and permitted. And, in many cases, a P.E. is just flat out required to certify/sign off on something.My thoughts are that US PE's will become more valuable as time clicks by.
Sweet! That's what I'm talking about! Brings home the idea that this PE license can be a good thing!I'm off to oversee some very basic construction next week, simply because the state told the client that they require a licensed P.E. to inspect and certify the construction.
Well, it's simply a matter of watching 8 monitoring wells being installed.Sweet! That's what I'm talking about! Brings home the idea that this PE license can be a good thing!I'm off to oversee some very basic construction next week, simply because the state told the client that they require a licensed P.E. to inspect and certify the construction.
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As long as the need remains the same or rises, it will be great news for us!Will the # of PE's increase?
No. Not according to presentation giving by one of our state board members. In fact the number are decreasing quite significantly along with land surveyors.
This is why I love all the high school dropouts with two kids in my town. Less people who will be out to take my job one day. ;hea51More need for PEs + less PEs available = Better pay and more job security for us!
Fact!I agree. The engineering community is becoming more technical and specialized all the time. The average person is becoming less and less likely to be able to get something designed and permitted. And, in many cases, a P.E. is just flat out required to certify/sign off on something.
https://www.nsf.gov/nsb/sei/edTool/data/engineering-01.htmlThis thread is 12 years old and discussing long term ramifications on the engineering field. Does anyone have any recent info answering the initial question?
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