Nice! Where do you work so I can submit my resumeI was really hoping there would be more responces to this thread... maybe it is still too soon after the results came out. Since I have already had two 9% raises this year, I don't really expect another one, but it sure would be nice!
Oh, I'd like to get that, too. Where do you work ?I was really hoping there would be more responces to this thread... maybe it is still too soon after the results came out. Since I have already had two 9% raises this year, I don't really expect another one, but it sure would be nice!
Finally got an answer from our CEO. He wants to reclassify me in December (in between the annual raise) and negotiations about salary will be taking place then. So it's something to be looking forward to.Oh, I'd like to get that, too. Where do you work ?I was told that new PEs would be specially considered at the normal annual raise. That was in July and I'm kind of bummed because I have to wait a whole year now. I did get a good raise though, I don't think they would have given me more than that.
My boss wants to try and reclassify me to another position but I don't count on it.
Anyway, as long as they don't give me a raise they won't see me stamp anything.
Do you really mean this? It's an interesting point of discussion... You can assume risk (unless you're covered by some company-level errors and omissions insurance) but get no reward (increased pay) so do the economist angle and say no. Or you can wholly dedicate yourself to your firm and contribute in any way possible so do the altruist angle and say yes.Anyway, as long as they don't give me a raise they won't see me stamp anything.
I'm surprised how large of a raise people are expecting just because they received their PE. At my company everyone gets a $2000/year raise for passing, but on average I think the engineers are paid more here with or without a PE. I will happily take my $2000/year raise and will be stamping and signing every drawing that comes out of the office I work in.5 to 6% on average depending on your qualifications such as your work history, contribution to your company, seniority, the project complexity, etc. An important factor you need to consider is responsible charge here in CA. If you are the PE that will stamp and sign off the plans for plan check, then you assume a greater responsibility (risk) and therefore the company should provide you with reasonable compensation. One thing good about having a PE (besides money) is that you have board certified credential which makes you more valuable to the company. The engineering company will need PEs who will stamp and sign off their plans per state plan check requirements.
Yes, I really mean this. My company doesn't really need another PE to stamp plans. I'm just a nice addition. So why would I take on more risk if I don't get paid for it. And the guys who do get paid for it get a break, or what ? Well, that's what I'd call stupid, really. And that doesn't have anything to do with dedication. I'm dedicated at my work, with or without stamp.Do you really mean this? It's an interesting point of discussion... You can assume risk (unless you're covered by some company-level errors and omissions insurance) but get no reward (increased pay) so do the economist angle and say no. Or you can wholly dedicate yourself to your firm and contribute in any way possible so do the altruist angle and say yes.
I'm not sure what I'd do...
You're thinking like an economist... I like it.So why would I take on more risk if I don't get paid for it.
If this is true, then most economists must not know about the electoral college and the State of Florida in 2000. Or Ohio in 2004 for that matter. How much effect you have on a national election depends on where you live. Yes, I know that these weren't decided by one vote, but with the errors in counting and such it could have happened.You're thinking like an economist... I like it.
I wonder if you vote in national elections. Most economists don't. They think the return on investment (the *VERY* unlikely event that their vote will swing the election) is way too small for the effort required. But this is another thread...
Then maybe you'd think it VERY strange that the State of Arizona has considered turning their elections into lotteries.Although I grant that the odds against an election coming down to just one vote are astronomical. I realize most people vote out of a sense of obligation, it just seems like a strange calculation to make, even for an economist.
Yeah, I do think it is very strange, and stupid as a matter of fact. I don't want people voting just to make a buck - many of these people wouldn't even think about their vote. To clarify, in case of any misunderstanding, I am not saying you or anyone else is stupid. I don't even know what your opinion on this is, and I'm not sure I even understand the idea, but if the idea is that a person could win a bunch of money by voting, then I think it is a stupid idea, and that's my honest opinion.Then maybe you'd think it VERY strange that the State of Arizona has considered turning their elections into lotteries.
Economists understand how the election processes works...
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