I will be taking the Machine Design Depth this April, and wonder if I need any charts for the thermo / fluids / HVAC morning session, other than what is in the MERM?Any ideas?
Thanks,
BPH
Hey dude,... I also took MD afternoon, but had the ASHRAE charts in a binder... I found it was quicker and easier to use the larger charts in the binder, but not a necessity.
I have the PPI - ASME mollier chart for steam, which is Huge, and will not bring it for that reason.I would take a book on steam/gas/air tables. The tables in Lindberg are not good enough, you will have to interpolate alot. A book with steam tables and a book with gas/air tables will help you save time.
I used the complete set of 5 in I-P (Link: B92200 - Complete Set of Psychrometric Charts (I-P))Hey dude,What ASHRAE charts did you use? I would like to buy a set but don't want to spend a lot of time figuring out which ones to purchase.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
BPH
I reccomend Keenan & Keyes for this. Definately saves time interpolating.I would take a book on steam/gas/air tables. The tables in Lindberg are not good enough, you will have to interpolate alot. A book with steam tables and a book with gas/air tables will help you save time.
I just ordered the complete set of ASHRAE charts, thanks for the link!I used the complete set of 5 in I-P (Link: B92200 - Complete Set of Psychrometric Charts (I-P))
I reccomend Keenan & Keyes for this. Definately saves time interpolating.
Kind of strange I have to buy a 60 year old reference book, I don't know why PPI or someone else doesn't just make some exam specific reference?I got mine off of Amazon (both Keenan keyes for steam and keenan Kaye for Gas). They were printed in 1948 and 1945 respectively. What ever you get be sure to get US units (conversions waste time).
dude,I got mine off of Amazon (both Keenan keyes for steam and keenan Kaye for Gas). They were printed in 1948 and 1945 respectively. What ever you get be sure to get US units (conversions waste time).
Since I will be taking machine design depth, I wonder if the thermo/fluids/HVAC morning problems will require much calculations or charts? I also wonder for the morning problems, if I can just make quick low accuracy interpolations from MERM, since I will only be doing the thermo/fluids/HVAC breadth questions?Keenan and Keyes, I think my books were from the 50s. got em on Amazon for like $5. The reason I bought such an old reference is because steam tables haven't changed since then.
US units should be all you would need for these references.
Really, this book is only for the 1 or 2 times you might have a steam or gas table problem and need to interpolate because the MERM tables aren't very good.
I would take the ASHRAE fundamentals book just to have other tables not in MERM, such as ammonia or R-134a.
i wouldn't worry about an older book "falling apart." My 1950s books worked just fine.Since I will be taking machine design depth, I wonder if the thermo/fluids/HVAC morning problems will require much calculations or charts? I also wonder for the morning problems, if I can just make quick low accuracy interpolations from MERM, since I will only be doing the thermo/fluids/HVAC breadth questions?
I guess when I do the NCEES practice exam I may get an idea, but that is not a large sample of what we will see in the AM.
I found some of the K&K gas and steam tables on amazon, they were between $30 - $70 for the 1980 version in good condition. I have heard that some people were concerned that the older books would fall apart during the exam.
Thanks,
BPH
English only.dude,One more question, do you think I will need both English and metric (si) references or only English?
Thanks,
BPH
I too have a similar question. I intend to take Thermal-Fluids Depth. Is the appendix section in MERM 12th Edition good enough or do I need to collect some additional charts?
Please advice.
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