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  1. EBAT75

    NCEES (2017) Lateral Problem 118

    Even hypothetically, there cannot be 4 frames all on one side. Code calls for at least 2 bays on either side of the C.G. That is not even met here. Enough to interpret a 1.3 Rho. In general cases, the definition of bays also comes into play. A moment frame is 1 bay regardless of length to...
  2. EBAT75

    Civil PE Licensure Questions- Education and Work Experience related to Surveying

    Your hybrid experience will be apportioned whether for an engineering application or surveying application. Best to log the breakdown and count only 40 hour weeks. As for references, do not cross disciplines. Good luck.
  3. EBAT75

    An Englishman that needs your help!

    Looking at your posting, I will offer my opinion. But take it only an opinion. It appears you are at a fork on the street. As Yogi Bera said “If you come to fork, take it”. While it is more than an amusing wisecrack, if the fork is EIT/LSIT, it is not an easy decision. If your heart is in Land...
  4. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    Canadian, Eh! Hope they have Molson Canadian cases on the shelves in Southern Florida. Stay in touch.
  5. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    At the end of the day, it’s about cost. When I was working for a Big Four consulting engineering firm in Canada (one of the biggest globally now), when they were discussing an issue, I overheard an old timer tell another engineer who asked “So, what’s the problem?”. Pat came the answer. “It’s...
  6. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    Thank you for the details. Makes it easier now. It is not that Table 602 does not apply. Just that it is being met from the setback and separation distances mentioned in relation to the fire rating. I don’t know if there is some interior detail that has an impact, one being a restaurant the...
  7. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    Sorry accidentally pushed before I finished it. I also thought it must be the distance to lot line your comparison is about but can the distance to street/alley centerline or any other building on the same lot be making a difference? As these are variables that define the Type based on Tables...
  8. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    Fire separation distance is more than that. It can be exterior wall to street centerline, it can also be perpendicular distance between exterior walls of two separate buildings on the same lot. I also
  9. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    I knew that was the case, but are you also impacted by the footnotes e and f in Table 601? Sec 704.10? By setbacks, do you mean fire separation distance, or is it foundations set backs from slopes or is it footprint setback from property line? Hard to imagine they would be the same for all...
  10. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    “They don’t want to take any risks so just put everything on the most conservative side.” It has been 20 years since I worked on some health care facilities, so I am a bit rusty on Construction Types. But is going to 5 conservative? I say this because V can use any material. Is that okay from a...
  11. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    In that case, take it up with the local building official. I suppose if you are “going over the heads”, and it causes friction at your workplace, it can be tricky. Good luck. I will be a bystander, just watching.
  12. EBAT75

    Construction type for masonry exterior building

    Wouldn’t fire separation distance have a bearing on the Type? Unless you are comparing that between the drawings you are referring to, it would be Washington apples vs Florida oranges. I love them both! Please look at Table 602 also. Another thought is local jurisdiction. Local building...
  13. EBAT75

    NCEES (2017) Lateral Problem 118

    I understand what you say. IMHO, some of the ways the question is formulated and the solution presented could be better. I still have some lack of understanding how a 65 ft high OMF (now allowed with conditions, earlier max 35 ft) spanning 30 ft can be considered a “bay”. Concrete of light...
  14. EBAT75

    NCEES (2017) Lateral Problem 118

    12.3.4.2b. is the source you’re referring to. Your take is correct on “regular”, 2 bays etc. It would have helped if they broke this into 2 parts one covering frames, the other covering shear walls. The term bays seems to mean differently between the two. A bay in frames seems to mean a single...
  15. EBAT75

    NCEES (2017) Lateral Problem 118

    I do not have this 2017 Samples book. I was working with my iPad and all I could see is from Design Code and downwards. Why I have missed the single story part. To more important things: 1. Yes, the diaphragm is flexible according to the problem. Again, the diagram in the solution misled me...
  16. EBAT75

    NCEES (2017) Lateral Problem 118

    Sorry I must have pressed a button accidentally. Continuing, Regular in plan at all levels - please critique my understanding. Rho is not the real issue here. It is 1.3 through more than one path. 1. This is Type 1a horizontal irregularity, bordering even on Type 1 b. Ratio being 1 1/3 cf 1.4...
  17. EBAT75

    NCEES (2017) Lateral Problem 118

    Regular in plan at all levels doesn’t mean that if there are unequal number of frames or walls, it is irregular. I wish they worded it “at all stories “ and avoided the possibility of misinterpretation. By regular at all levels is meant that there are no offsets in the framing layout, not...
  18. EBAT75

    NCEES (2017) Lateral Problem 118

    I don’t see any mention by anyone of LFRS having to be located on the perimeter. I said preferably orthogonal directions. Orthogonal does not mean perimeter. It only means perpendicular to each other. Why preferably perpendicular? Because there can be non-parallel walls also. It is a different...
  19. EBAT75

    NCEES (2017) Lateral Problem 118

    Whether my take on the solution is correct or not is best left for other Members to critique also. That is one of the purposes in joining a Forum.
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