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We are like PE's with an asterisk.

-Ray, PE*

Yo Ray, I was reading another post on how people passed the PE and found your story about your wife and the exam date. Are you not the Estimator in Red Bank, NJ I spoke to during the lunch break at the NJPE Ewing site? It looks like you passed, congrats man! I passed too by the way. (Mechanical, HVAC)

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Yo Ray, I was reading another post on how people passed the PE and found your story about your wife and the exam date. Are you not the Estimator in Red Bank, NJ I spoke to during the lunch break at the NJPE Ewing site? It looks like you passed, congrats man! I passed too by the way. (Mechanical, HVAC)

Hey Pablo, that was me! Small world after all! Hope all is well, and next time you are near the Jersey Shore, give me a call... we'll do lunch/golf.

Congrats on passing yourself! I had planned on emailing you to see how you did, but didn't want to jinx you!

I really would like my certificate sooner too... one of my coworkers is dying to take the picture I have on the wall where I plan to put my certificate up!

-Ray

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Ray:

Small world it is! Nice hearing from you. Next time i am around Red Bank I will give you a buzz. If you are in the Yardley, PA area, let me know as well.

Congrats!

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Here is an update regarding issuance of PE licenses. I spoke to Ms. Forman at the PE Board yesterday. She stated that she had not yet recieved the package from EES with the exam results. I asked if they went to the board first and she said no that the board had already released the results and the EES results package comes to her directly. She also told me the infomation and license packets will be mail in the following order:

1. Failed examinees

2. Passed PE with prior passing of NJ Law exam

3. Passed PE & NJ Law in April

4. Passed PE but failed NJ Law

Ms. Forman also stated she would be on vacation from July 24 to August 3 and would not be getting the EES results package before her vacation. So what does all this mean? PE Licenses will be issued in September or October, which I think coinsides with when the Board likes to have its license promotion ceremony. This is where they hand you your wall certificate. If you don't go to the ceremony then they mail it to you. Based on the speed of the NJPE office, I think they promptly mail the wall certificate after the Chrismas Holidays

Old as Dirt Geo, PE-elect

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Here is an update regarding issuance of PE licenses. I spoke to Ms. Forman at the PE Board yesterday. She stated that she had not yet recieved the package from EES with the exam results. I asked if they went to the board first and she said no that the board had already released the results and the EES results package comes to her directly. She also told me the infomation and license packets will be mail in the following order:

1. Failed examinees

2. Passed PE with prior passing of NJ Law exam

3. Passed PE & NJ Law in April

4. Passed PE but failed NJ Law

Ms. Forman also stated she would be on vacation from July 24 to August 3 and would not be getting the EES results package before her vacation. So what does all this mean? PE Licenses will be issued in September or October, which I think coinsides with when the Board likes to have its license promotion ceremony. This is where they hand you your wall certificate. If you don't go to the ceremony then they mail it to you. Based on the speed of the NJPE office, I think they promptly mail the wall certificate after the Chrismas Holidays

Old as Dirt Geo, PE-elect

I guess the good news, for me at least, is that I am in the 2nd group - I passed the NJ Law exam when I took the EIT. Did they give any indication of the date of the license promotion ceremony? Sounds like it could be a good time for a EB.com NJ Branch Party to celebrate graduating from PE-Elect to PE.

-Ray, PE-Elect

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Might as well go to the ceremony too. These people take forever! I am also in group 2. I will take a day off from work and be done with it! If you took your EIT in NJ, it is a condition that you must pass teh NJ Law Exam for you to get your EIT Certificate, so I would assume Group 3 is pretty small.

We will see how things develop. Any updates keep us posted, Thanks.

JPGOLF

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Not sure on the date of the promotion ceremony, I'm sure the date will be provided in our packets when we get them. From what I have herd from other NJ PE's the ceremony can be any time between mid October to mid or late November. Don't you just love the efficiency of NJ state government. I understand the promotion ceremony is like a graduation ceremony, complete with a guest speaker.

I'm in the 3rd group, having passed my EIT in Michigan in 1983. I hope there isn't a long delay between groups 1 & 2 and the 3rd group. But i guess it really depend on the speed and efficiency of Ms. Forman, as NJ can only afford to have 1 person perform the task of organizing, preparing and sending out the packets.

The wait continues.

Old as Dirt Geo

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Here is something a found on NJBPE's website, under the Winter of 2004 newsletter:

"On October 17, 2002 and April 17, 2003, the Board held its semi-annual

Certificate Presentation Ceremonies at the Holiday Inn located in Jamesburg,

New Jersey."

I guess that gives us a better idea of when to have our certificates. You are right OADG, it takes 1 full year, to get the process done, start to finish! UGH!

On the other hand, I just got my new business cards with the letters P and E. Bad thing is I will have to wait until October to use them!

Again, if anybody knows anything, let us know!

JPGOLF

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JPGOLF

I looked at the newsletters on the NJBPE web site too. The really scary thing was that for those that passed the April 2005 exam, the ceremony as held on November 3rd. So I think the date of the ceremony is dependent of the board member's schedule.

As for the business cards, I'm in the same boat as you. I have them with the P and E after my name but can't use them.

Old as Dirt Geo

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Guys,

I was reading rules on how to apply for a PE license in New Jersey and checked the actual application. It seems that in NJ only counts the experience obtained UNDER IMMEDIATE SUPERVISION of a PE. That is, regardless of what you did, even if you designed Boeing 747 from the ground up - it would not count, unless your immediate supervisor was a PE, and your worked under him for four years (or three years, if have an MS degree).

This seems to be stricter than the regulations in most of the other states. Let's say, Connecticut does require an applicant to have three references from PE's (same as NJ), but they are not necessarily his or her IMMEDIATE supervisors. Many states, including Florida and PA only call for working under a PE OR EQUALLY QUALIFIED PERSON - which is quite nice, since an equally qualified means a good engineer in general. In NJ rules I saw nothing about an equally qualified person... And how about those folks who work in exempt industry? If you work in manufacturing, you are no good in NJ? :hung-037:

Guys from NJ, please explain it. No work under PE - no license in NJ PERIOD? Is this right? :whipping:

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Ray, FYI LEED AP is not that bad. I took it about 1.5 years ago. Just make sure you go to the LEED AP workshop. It is easier that way to get to know the test material and get a feel for what LEED is and all the disciplines it covers. I do recommend studying for the test. I know a couple of architects that did not study and took the test 4 times. Then again, they are architects! Besides, now that you passed the PE, LEED should be a breeze!

Jpgolf

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Ray, FYI LEED AP is not that bad. I took it about 1.5 years ago. Just make sure you go to the LEED AP workshop. It is easier that way to get to know the test material and get a feel for what LEED is and all the disciplines it covers. I do recommend studying for the test. I know a couple of architects that did not study and took the test 4 times. Then again, they are architects! Besides, now that you passed the PE, LEED should be a breeze!

Jpgolf

I just need to get my hands on one of the books. One of our guys here is trying to organize getting groups of the PM's and preconstruction staff certified.

I have no use for architects.

I figure after the 8 hours of fun we had in Ewing followed by 10+ weeks of waiting... an hour and half test with 10 minutes of waiting is no big deal.

Do you plan on going to the Certificate Presentation Ceremony this fall?

Ray

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NEWS!!!

I just called the NJBPE again to let them know of an address change and asked the lady how the whole thing works again.

She told me we will get the License Verification Form in the mail around beginning of September. Fill it out, send the check and all that. AFTER that, you get your license card which allows you to do business. MUCH after that (October, November as we are all predicting here, based on old newsletters) you get your wall certificate.

The good news is once you have the license card, you are home free and ready to go. I would assume then that maybe around early October we would have the license card and the seal as well.

Every little bit of information helps.

Regards,

Jpgolf

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JPGOLF

Thanks for the update. Did you talk to Ms. Foreman? I know she was on vacation until 8/2 or 8/3. Ms. foreman is the one I talked to and she puts the license Verification Package together and mails it to you. I can't believe how long it takes to get this done in NJ, oh wait I forgot it is NJ thats why it takes so long.

Old as Dirt Geo

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No, I did not speak to Ms. Foreman, but the lady did confirm she was on vacation. I do think she is correct in the license card vs. certificate. It makes sense the certificates would take longer to get out. I specifically asked the lady on the phone if that license card is enough to get a seal. She literally said: "once you receive the license card, you can do business in this state."

Either way, I will still go to the ceremony and get the wall certificate out of the way. I have about 4-5 other ones I need to get framed and I am just waiting for this last one. Maybe I will get some bulk discount!

Jpgolf

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Guys from NJ, please explain it. No work under PE - no license in NJ PERIOD? Is this right? :whipping:

I thought that's how it is everywhere isn't it?

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I thought that's how it is everywhere isn't it?

No. Here's a quote from Michigan's statute:

(2) In order to be examined as a professional engineer, an individual shall meet all of the following requirements for admission to the professional practice examination:

(a) Provide documentation of not less than 8 years of professional experience in engineering work acceptable to the board of professional engineers, including not more than 6 years of education.

(b ) Provide evidence of completion of a baccalaureate degree in engineering from an accredited program or its equivalent, as determined by the board of professional engineers.

© Provide not less than 5 references, 3 of which shall be from professional engineers who have personal knowledge of the applicant's professional experience.

Thus, no requirement for the experience to be under a PE.

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Thanks OADG! Actually you just reminded me i moved and I never sent them my new address. I already called Ms. Foreman and she updated it , so my package w/ the new address will be mailed out Monday.

I wonder how long they will take to mail the license cards. At least these packages went out more quickly than we all anticipated.

WE ARE ALMOST THERE GUYS (and GIRLS)!

Jpgolf

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I got my letter on Saturday... going to go get a money order and fill out the form today. I will throw it in the mail tomorrow. Getting close!

-Ray (soon to officially be a PE)

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