Penn State Mess

[Freon]

Well the NCAA **** all over Penn State Football, but the real question out there is how will the loss of football revenue affect all the non-revenue sports?

 

[Master slacker]

$60 million fine. The NCAA imposes a $60 million fine, equivalent to the approximate average of one year's gross revenues from the Penn State football program, to be paid over a five-year period beginning in 2012 into an endowment for programs preventing child sexual abuse and/or assisting the victims of child sexual abuse. The minimum annual payment will be $12 million until the $60 million is paid. The proceeds of this fine may not be used to fund programs at the University. No current sponsored athletic team may be reduced or eliminated in order to fund this fine.

 

[Dexman PE PMP]

The student body will become the real victims of the fine because the computer lab won't be getting new computers, the engineering department will have to scale back on their labs, several academic departments will have to consolidate things, extra-curricular activities (IM sports, clubs, etc) will go bye-bye, and on, and on, and on...

 

[Supe]

From school funding, yes. But that doesn't indicate how much will be lost through endorsement deals and corporate sponsors. There are also questionable definitions of "Athletic teams", which may not include club sports. I could easily see those taking a hit.

 

[snickerd3]

They will find out who were real fans/supporters now. Some academics might suffer but not likely the engineering department. If they are anything like other big ten schools they get a lot of funding from grants the professors acquire...that is how the chem E program stays alive outside the college of engineering...they bring $$$$ to Liberal arts college which houses it. Club sports don't get funding from the school to begin with...thats whyt hey are club sports. They are owned by individuals who pay the university for renting space...the school makes money off them not the other way around.

 

[Supe]

They will find out who were real fans/supporters now. Some academics might suffer but not likely the engineering department. If they are anything like other big ten schools they get a lot of funding from grants the professors acquire...that is how the chem E program stays alive outside the college of engineering...they bring $$$$ to Liberal arts college which houses it. Club sports don't get funding from the school to begin with...thats whyt hey are club sports. They are owned by individuals who pay the university for renting space...the school makes money off them not the other way around.

At Ohio State, the club sports that were NCAA recognized but not "Div 1" so to speak (e.g. the rifle team) were still HEAVILY funded by the university. So while the ultimate frisbee team may not feel an impact, others very well may.

 

[Dexman PE PMP]

With Penn St being as big as it is with as many Alum as they have, I would expect to see the school reaching out to them for "donations" to offset this fine and try to avoid any major financial cuts.

 

[snickerd3]

big ten just handed down there verdict too. No conf title games for 4 yrs and no share of the bowl game money for the 4 yrs

 

[mudpuppy]

It's sad when an auxiliary function of the univeristy (sports) can potentially have such a large impact on it's primary purpose (education). A la MS's thread about the USA not being #1 any more, it seems as a society we care more about sports than education. . . seems like priorities are backwards here.

 

[Master slacker]

^^^ Just like most of the "LSU fans" in these parts fit into one or more of the categories below:

1. Care only for the football team and couldn't care less for baseball, track, swimming, gymnastics, etc...,
   
2. Never attended the university,
   
3. Only tailgate,
   
4. Only donate to TAF (Tiger Athletic Foundation), which funds mostly football, and / or
   
5. Have large trucks with more football bumper stickers than I have LSU stickers anywhere.
   

The football team no longer is "affiliated" with the school. It's a separate entity that shares only the university's namesake.

 

[MA_PE]

It's sad when an auxiliary function of the univeristy (sports) can potentially have such a large impact on it's primary purpose (education). A la MS's thread about the USA not being #1 any more, it seems as a society we care more about sports than education. . . seems like priorities are backwards here.

****winner winner chicken dinner*****

 

[envirotex]

I love my Longhorn football but, it has gotten out of hand. There is absolutely no way that smaller schools con compete with more than $150 million in revenue. The only good thing is that in Texas' case football really does support all of the other programs...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2012-05-15/texas-athletics-spending-revenue/54960210/1

 

[Freon]

$60 million fine. The NCAA imposes a $60 million fine, equivalent to the approximate average of one year's gross revenues from the Penn State football program, to be paid over a five-year period beginning in 2012 into an endowment for programs preventing child sexual abuse and/or assisting the victims of child sexual abuse. The minimum annual payment will be $12 million until the $60 million is paid. The proceeds of this fine may not be used to fund programs at the University. No current sponsored athletic team may be reduced or eliminated in order to fund this fine.

That sentence was not in the story I read. But I could see them taking a chainsaw to the travel/transportation budgets of most of the non-revenue sports.

 

[Master slacker]

There really isn't much more that can be stripped from non-revenue, aka "Olympic", sports. Been there.

 

[Kephart P.E.]

^^^ Just like most of the "LSU fans" in these parts fit into one or more of the categories below:

1. Care only for the football team and couldn't care less for baseball, track, swimming, gymnastics, etc...,
   
2. Never attended the university,
   
3. Only tailgate,
   
4. Only donate to TAF (Tiger Athletic Foundation), which funds mostly football, and / or
   
5. Have large trucks with more football bumper stickers than I have LSU stickers anywhere.
   

The football team no longer is "affiliated" with the school. It's a separate entity that shares only the university's namesake.

Same in my neck of the woods, just substitute University of Oregon for LSU. BTW, this year Phil Knight is building Football only offices for UO.

The cost? 68 Million Dollars!

 

[RIP - VTEnviro]

It's sad when an auxiliary function of the univeristy (sports) can potentially have such a large impact on it's primary purpose (education). A la MS's thread about the USA not being #1 any more, it seems as a society we care more about sports than education. . . seems like priorities are backwards here.

****winner winner chicken dinner*****

Interesting to see that the highest paid state employee in a lot of these states the highest paid public employee is the football (or basketball) head coach.

There's no great way to handle the situation. You can't let the football program get away with this stuff, on principle. But the guilty parties are dead, incarcerated, or awaiting, so the only ones being hurt by this are people that have nothing to do with it.

The trickle down effect is complicated from this, it messes up non-revenue sports, academics, local business, etc.

 

[Capt Worley PE]

^^^ Just like most of the "LSU fans" in these parts fit into one or more of the categories below:

1. Care only for the football team and couldn't care less for baseball, track, swimming, gymnastics, etc...,
   
2. Never attended the university,
   
3. Only tailgate,
   
4. Only donate to TAF (Tiger Athletic Foundation), which funds mostly football, and / or
   
5. Have large trucks with more football bumper stickers than I have LSU stickers anywhere.
   

The football team no longer is "affiliated" with the school. It's a separate entity that shares only the university's namesake.

Same in my neck of the woods, just substitute University of Oregon for LSU. BTW, this year Phil Knight is building Football only offices for UO.

The cost? 68 Million Dollars!

USC built a 'study center' for their football players. IIRC, it was a cool 15 mill.

 

[Master slacker]

We had an "Academic Center for Excellence". It's where we would study and the football / basketball players yammered and had their take-home tests taken by tutors. It's even sponsored by Cox Communications.

 

[Capt Worley PE]

 

[engineergurl]

^ not funny...

I am getting made fun of left and right and the jokes about showers and little boys is starting to piss me off to the point where I've closed my cubicle door...