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My early reads, subject to more refinement after a deeper look at @DuranDuran's spreadsheet.

town+++

town++

  • cheby
  • lycee
town+

  • doth
  • eyehate
  • harsha
  • beccabun
  • duran
  • square
netural

  • chart
  • nikr
  • txjen
  • jean
mafia+

  • jaykay
mafia++

  • vhab
mafia+++

I obviously need to refine this more. With four more mafia remaining, there will need to be some shuffling around the mafia, neutral, and townie+ categories.

 
My early reads, subject to more refinement after a deeper look at @DuranDuran's spreadsheet.

town+++

town++

  • cheby
  • lycee
town+

  • doth
  • eyehate
  • harsha
  • beccabun
  • duran
  • square
netural

  • chart
  • nikr
  • txjen
  • jean
mafia+

  • jaykay
mafia++

  • vhab
mafia+++

I obviously need to refine this more. With four more mafia remaining, there will need to be some shuffling around the mafia, neutral, and townie+ categories.
Vhab did vote with CU against trickshot yesterday. So that makes sense. JK voted for CU on day 2. So not sure about that. Also, why do you feel lycee is town++? 

 
Really.

So if a Mercedes-Benz crashes due to a design flaw. The liability falls to the individual engineer who stamped the drawing and not the corporation?

... I guess that's how it works with doctors.
Ah, we’re talking about two different things. The “industrial exemption” is about not requiring licensure to practice engineering if under certain industries/situations (kind of grey depending on individual state board language), whereas almost every other country requires licensure regardless of industry with only very few exceptions (this is where I claim we’re kind of weird). I’m not considering liability at all. 

Also, slightly off-topic but related, the US is likely one of the easier places to get licensed. True, we do have to take an exam and only the Philippines is the only other country requiring a PE-style test, but getting licensed there is even harder than it is here. Plus I think certain European countries require a masters degree (or their version of it) to even qualify for licensure. The world is a funny place.

 
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Ah, we’re talking about two different things. The “industrial exemption” is about not requiring licensure to practice engineering if under certain industries/situations (kind of grey depending on individual state board language), whereas almost every other country requires licensure regardless of industry with only very few exceptions (this is where I claim we’re kind of weird). I’m not considering liability at all. 

Also, slightly off-topic but related, the US is likely one of the easier places to get licensed. True, we do have to take an exam and only the Philippines is the only other country requiring a PE-style test, but getting licensed there is even harder than it is here. Plus I think certain European countries require a masters degree (or their version of it) to even qualify for licensure. The world is a funny place.
Finland requires their teachers to have masters degrees, and their school system is among the best in the world.

 
My early reads, subject to more refinement after a deeper look at @DuranDuran's spreadsheet.

town+++

town++

  • cheby
  • lycee
town+

  • doth
  • eyehate
  • harsha
  • beccabun
  • duran
  • square
netural

  • chart
  • nikr
  • txjen
  • jean
mafia+

  • jaykay
mafia++

  • vhab
mafia+++

I obviously need to refine this more. With four more mafia remaining, there will need to be some shuffling around the mafia, neutral, and townie+ categories.


Vhab did vote with CU against trickshot yesterday. So that makes sense. JK voted for CU on day 2. So not sure about that. Also, why do you feel lycee is town++? 
vHab was only following the advice of the Picker wheel D1 and D2, and had to much marg D3 to log back in and consult the wheel.

I am but a simple townie, who will wait for another 6-8 months for their vaccine.

 
Finland requires their teachers to have masters degrees, and their school system is among the best in the world.
Yep. I think we have some unbelievably exceptional examples of American smarts and we like to parade those smart people/institutions around, that’s fine. In general though, we’re pretty disappointingly dumb in a lot of ways/areas.

Edit: Don't listen to me though. I'm pretty dumb in most areas and only got very lucky in others.

 
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ALSO @SaltySteve i assume that day kill will be announced tonight and maf kil announced monday morning? 
Sounds good to me. I'm off between now and new years so my story may go back to just random kills no frills.

i hope i get a taco 
I've got plenty to go around!


 


 


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tj_PE


x


x


x


harshaPEAZ


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rebecca1


 


chart94


CUniverse


 


0


DuranDuran


EyehatethePEexam


ChebyshevII PE


CUniverse


EyehatethePEexam


0


vhab49_PE


 


TrickShotG


TrickShotG


JayKay PE


0


jean15paul_PE


 


ChebyshevII PE


ChebyshevII PE


Dothracki


0


NikR_PE


 


Dothracki


RoarBark


RoarBark


0


chart94


 


jean15paul_PE


rebecca1


Dothracki


0


squaretaper LIT AF PE


 


RBHeadge PE


Roarbark


fowler


0


JayKay PE


 


RBHeadge PE


CUniverse


ChebyshevII PE


0


RBHeadge PE


 


txjennah PE


LyceeFruit PE


 


0


LyceeFruit PE


EyehatethePEexam


CUniverse


CUniverse


RoarBark


0


txjennah PE


 


RBHeadge PE



squaretaper LIT AF PE



 


0


Roarbark


x


x


CUniverse


fowler


0


Dothracki


 


CUniverse


 


ChebyshevII PE


2


EyehatethePEexam


 


CUniverse


RoarBark


ChebyshevII PE


0


fowler


x


x


x


LyceeFruit PE


0


ChebyshevII PE


 


DuranDuran


RoarBark


Dothracki


0


CUniverse (M)


 


TrickShotG


RoarBark


 


0


MadamPirate PE


x


x


TrickShotG


 


0


harshaPEAZ


 


CUniverse


RoarBark


Roarbark


0


TrickShotG


x


CUniverse


CUniverse


fowler


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


Town Vote:


 


CUniverse (M)


RoarBark


fowler


 


Mafia Kill:


 


TrickShotG


MadamPirate PE


tj_PE

 
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Ah, we’re talking about two different things. The “industrial exemption” is about not requiring licensure to practice engineering if under certain industries/situations (kind of grey depending on individual state board language), whereas almost every other country requires licensure regardless of industry with only very few exceptions (this is where I claim we’re kind of weird). I’m not considering liability at all. 

Also, slightly off-topic but related, the US is likely one of the easier places to get licensed. True, we do have to take an exam and only the Philippines is the only other country requiring a PE-style test, but getting licensed there is even harder than it is here. Plus I think certain European countries require a masters degree (or their version of it) to even qualify for licensure. The world is a funny place.
There is always the looming possibility of the master's requirement coming here in addition to the 8-hour. I believe NCEES and ASCE have adopted a formal position of their organizations that 30 hour of post-graduate work be completed to obtain a PE. However, it is of course up to state licensing boards to make the change and so far there has been no movement to my knowledge. 

 
 Also, why do you feel lycee is town++? 
It was a simple metric design. Lycee voted twice against cuniverse. It needs to be refined further.

There is always the looming possibility of the master's requirement coming here in addition to the 8-hour. I believe NCEES and ASCE have adopted a formal position of their organizations that 30 hour of post-graduate work be completed to obtain a PE. However, it is of course up to state licensing boards to make the change and so far there has been no movement to my knowledge. 
The NCEES "model law engineer" does not include a graduate degree-equivalent... yet. It generated a lot of debate and came very close to passing when it was last discussed a few years ago. It may very well get included in the next revision.

https://ncees.org/records/model-law-designation/

 
It was a simple metric design. Lycee voted twice against cuniverse. It needs to be refined further.

The NCEES "model law engineer" does not include a graduate degree-equivalent... yet. It generated a lot of debate and came very close to passing when it was last discussed a few years ago. It may very well get included in the next revision.

https://ncees.org/records/model-law-designation/
Interesting, you're right. I was paying attention to this in 2013 or so and looks like 2014 they decided to not include it. In any case, I think there is a movement out there to make that change and whether it ever happens or not who knows. 

 
There is always the looming possibility of the master's requirement coming here in addition to the 8-hour. I believe NCEES and ASCE have adopted a formal position of their organizations that 30 hour of post-graduate work be completed to obtain a PE. However, it is of course up to state licensing boards to make the change and so far there has been no movement to my knowledge. 
VT only recently adopted PDHs as a requirement.

Which I'm able to obtain by the television

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Good lord...I want to party at the Salty household fasho!
We don't play lol. But its not as much as you're thinking. When you go to a Mexican restaurant you can get a 32 oz margarita and that's pretty typical. 1 gallon is just 4 of those. Add in a couple family members and putting a gallon away is an easy task.

 
 


 


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Vote Count


Player


Votes For


Votes For


Votes For


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tj_PE


x


x


x


harshaPEAZ


0


rebecca1


 


chart94


CUniverse


 


0


DuranDuran


EyehatethePEexam


ChebyshevII PE


CUniverse


EyehatethePEexam


0


vhab49_PE


 


TrickShotG


TrickShotG


JayKay PE


0


jean15paul_PE


 


ChebyshevII PE


ChebyshevII PE


Dothracki


0


NikR_PE


 


Dothracki


RoarBark


RoarBark


0


chart94


 


jean15paul_PE


rebecca1


Dothracki


0


squaretaper LIT AF PE


 


RBHeadge PE


Roarbark


fowler


0


JayKay PE


EyehatethePEexam


RBHeadge PE


CUniverse


ChebyshevII PE


0


RBHeadge PE


 


txjennah PE


LyceeFruit PE


 


0


LyceeFruit PE


EyehatethePEexam


CUniverse


CUniverse


RoarBark


0


txjennah PE


 


RBHeadge PE



squaretaper LIT AF PE



 


0


Roarbark


x


x


CUniverse


fowler


0


Dothracki


 


CUniverse


 


ChebyshevII PE


3


EyehatethePEexam


 


CUniverse


RoarBark


ChebyshevII PE


0


fowler


x


x


x


LyceeFruit PE


0


ChebyshevII PE


 


DuranDuran


RoarBark


Dothracki


0


CUniverse (M)


x


TrickShotG


RoarBark


 


0


MadamPirate PE


x


x


TrickShotG


 


0


harshaPEAZ


 


CUniverse


RoarBark


Roarbark


0


TrickShotG


x


CUniverse


CUniverse


fowler


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


Town Vote:


 


CUniverse (M)


RoarBark


fowler


 


Mafia Kill:


 


TrickShotG


MadamPirate PE


tj_PE

 

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