California Application and References: Civil - Transportation - Traffic

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CFLuke

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Hi everyone,

I passed the Civil PE (Transportation) exam in October. I'm filling out the application and have two general questions, one regarding references and another regarding qualifying experience.

I worked for 2.5 years where my manager was a Planner and all my engineering work was reviewed by a PE. I'd planned to use that engineer as a reference for that engagement. The problem is that I went to look up his license to fill out the application, and it says "LICENSE TYPE: TRAFFIC ENGINEERS." I'm not sure what the implications of this are - I know there is a Professional Traffic Engineer license in California, but does this mean that this person would not qualify as a reference for my Civil PE application? Most people I've looked up who are described with this license type have PE after their names. I could find Civil PEs that I worked with (but not closely) during that same engagement.

The same situation applies to my current supervisor, but I work closely with another person whose license type is Civil Engineer. If two of my references are Civil PEs, can the other two be Traffic PEs?

Next, I've heard some conflicting reports on what kinds of transportation engineering qualify for a Civil PE in California (example: Traffic Engineer experience does not qualify for Civil?). I've done capacity calculations and signal timing, as well as signage and striping plans based on the MUTCD...but that's traffic engineering, no? Would that experience not be eligible? If so, it seems like it might be best to leave it off completely. I could have more even trouble if geometric design work doesn't count.

Thanks for any insight that you can share. I am also happy to answer any clarifying questions!
 

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I worked for 2.5 years where my manager was a Planner and all my engineering work was reviewed by a PE. I'd planned to use that engineer as a reference for that engagement. The problem is that I went to look up his license to fill out the application, and it says "LICENSE TYPE: TRAFFIC ENGINEERS." I'm not sure what the implications of this are - I know there is a Professional Traffic Engineer license in California, but does this mean that this person would not qualify as a reference for my Civil PE application?

No. Qualifying reference for a civil engineer application would be someone who is authorized to practice civil engineering. For reference: https://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/applicants/pe_errf_instructions_2010.pdf Qualifying experience must be gained under someone licensed to practice in the discipline for which you are applying.

In regards to the example you provided related to traffic engineering, you need to ask yourself: Is a licensed PE (or civil engineer in CA) required to perform or supervise this activity? If so (and be realistic), then it could qualify. If not, then it will likely not qualify for civil engineering experience.

Civil engineers in CA is a practice act which means use of the title and the actual practice is regulated. Traffic Engineer license in CA is a title act which means that only the use the title is regulated. Anyone can practice traffic engineering in CA without a license.
 
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