2019 Novel Coronavirus

[Road Guy]

 

[csb]

Just saying...I'm usually the one getting injected.  :eyebrows:

 

[Road Guy]

I figure if i can get a disease from relations then I could get a little bit of the vaccine as well?

 

[csb]

You're going to need a lot of drive-thru margaritas to gain immunity. 

 

[Dleg]

He didn't say that COVID was gone, he said that the death rate had dropped to what the flu usually is every year. I tried to look it up, but couldn't find anything right off hand and I've got better things to do besides obsess over COVID numbers all day. Besides that, any number you might come up with is going to be tainted since they've been fudging numbers since day 1.

There are plenty of other side affects but they're so busy trying to get this out there that nobody bothered to talk about them. There are people in the trials who ended up with Bell's Palsy vs 0 in the placebo group. One person in the trial talked about getting the chills/shakes so bad he cracked a tooth.

Finally, other peoples reluctance to getting a vaccine is from actually getting information from someplace besides Facebook and have doubts about a vaccine that was developed in a few months rather than years like they usually do.

I said before, you go right ahead and cut to the front of the line, but I'm not injecting anything until they've had time to really sort out what this "cure" is really doing to people.

So you didn't get your "cut and pasted from a friend" post from Facebook?  LOL. 

I get my information from the FDA, CDC, etc. "Strange people lying on Facebook and distributing medical advice is no basis for a system of medicine"

Oh and yes he did say the pandemic has ended. Check his item 11. 

 

[Road Guy]

I cant disagree with this part thoughmainly the bold portion)

12. Unfortunately, you cannot completely trust what you hear from the media. They have consistently got it wrong for the past year.  

But this part lets me know this guy is basically a Chiroporacter?
 

Here's my bottom line: I would much rather get a COVID infection than get a COVID vaccine. That would be safer and more effective. I have had a number of COVID positive flu cases this year. Some were old and had health concerns. Every single one has done really well with natural therapies including ozone therapy and IV vitamin C. Just because modern medicine has no effective treatment for viral infections, doesn’t mean that there isn’t one.

 

[Violator]

 

[JayKay PE]

So I might be getting the vaccine sooner rather than later, since I work in a hospital.  I am going away for vacation, so it'll prob be in January when I can be present for the second dose in two weeks.  Have to listen to the town hall first, that is happening later today.  Tbh, I don't think I'll have a bad reaction to it, except maybe the injection area will hurt more than a regular flu shot?  I've been trying to be safe, but even if/when I get the vaccine, I'm going to wear a face mask for a long time.

Indiana...is not doing very well.

 

[Supe]

 

[Road Guy]

Are they doing the entire hospital?  Some of the people where the wife work are a little peaved(sp?) that the first round they are only offering to ICU / ER / PACU Staff and the other floors that dont directly 100% know they deal with covid on a daily basis are being bumped to the 2nd round.  (For example GI Lab or something)

But they dont really care that the staff get the vaccine for their personal safety, they just dont want them to miss work - :true:

 

[JayKay PE]

I think the email from our director says that our vaccine allotment is arriving before the end of December.  They anticipate adequate supply to vaccinate all employees who want to receive it (they did do a survey a week or two ago asking if you wanted to receive it or not).  I'm not sure if it's because we're a federal facility with Veterans (who tick every box of people who are super susceptible to covid), with non-remote work, or if it's a triage situation where they're trying to control some of a hot zone (Indiana...is not handling this well, and our VAMC is one of the bigger ones that services people in the smaller towns).  For us, I think we're getting the opportunity to get the vaccine more of a 'protect the veterans' than protecting us.

 

[Road Guy]

I think that’s it - your protecting the Vets (customers) which is cool.

I did sort of think they should just do all full time staff at hospitals (who want it) because it’s really the same principle.

I just hope this is the beginning of the end. 

 

[Dleg]

I just hope this is the beginning of the end. 

It should be. That's why it's so important to push back against vaccine misinformation now. We need to get enough people vaccinated that the virus stops circulating, so we can protect those who can't get the vaccination, for whatever reason. That's what true "herd immunity" means. We all have to do our part. 

 

[Road Guy]

[SIZE= 12px]Grandpa Joe didn’t trust the streamlined process a few months ago... but us Americans are a fickle bunch....[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12.00px]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/16/us/politics/biden-trump-coronavirus-vaccine.html[/SIZE]
 

 

[Tiger15]

Grandpa Joe didn’t trust the streamlined process a few months ago... but us Americans are a fickle bunch....

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/16/us/politics/biden-trump-coronavirus-vaccine.html
 

I didn't read that like that. He said he didn't trust Trump or a politicized development program. But he trusts scientists. 

Seems like a pretty reasonable position.

 

[Dothracki PE]

Also why "Grandpa Joe"? Donald Trump is also a grandfather with at least 10 grandchildren and is only a few years younger. Nobody goes around calling him Grandpa Donald. 

 

[Road Guy]

[SIZE= 12px]He was responding to the (truthful) claim that a vaccine would be available by end of year.[/SIZE]

[SIZE= 12px]You have to push the scientist - I think it was Alan Shepard that said if you had let the scientists make all the decisions NASA would have never gotten the first rocket off the ground.[/SIZE]

[SIZE= 12px]I think the vaccine was the only real play available and that  “norms”  were pushed was a good thing- lots and lots of people were involved (just not Joe)- [/SIZE]

 

[Platypus Engineer]

He was responding to the (truthful) claim that a vaccine would be available by end of year.

You have to push the scientist - I think it was Alan Shepard that said if you had let the scientists make all the decisions NASA would have never gotten the first rocket off the ground.

I think the vaccine was the only real play available and that  “norms”  were pushed was a good thing- lots and lots of people were involved (just not Joe)- 

There were also scientists in medieval times who thought the sun revolved around the earth, Galileo (might have been Da Vinci)  was mocked for saying the earth went around sun,  but he proved it was true.

 

[Road Guy]

I deal with very conservative geotech and structural engineers all the time and have to push them a litlte out of their comfort zone to try and find the limits of what can really be done -

I dont see it much different than dealing with a "scientist" in this situation.  Surely there has to be a way we can speed this up given the circumstances?  Glad someone pushed is all.

 

 

[Platypus Engineer]

I deal with very conservative geotech and structural engineers all the time and have to push them a litlte out of their comfort zone to try and find the limits of what can really be done -

I dont see it much different than dealing with a "scientist" in this situation.  Surely there has to be a way we can speed this up given the circumstances?  Glad someone pushed is all.

 

I am glad it got pushed too. Whatever it takes to not have wear a mask anymore.

A primary focus of my job is corrosion control, so I get a lot of grief because I usually point worst case scenario. People unwilling to try new approaches.