2019 Novel Coronavirus

I snipped this from the CDC:


In particular the second paragraph. "There is a possibility you may test positive on some antibody tests". If the answer was "you will test positive for Covid antibodies after getting the vaccine" we wouldn't be discussing this.

Everything we previously knew about vaccines is inaccurate now that they can do this mRNA method.

bwin12 said:

I snipped this from the CDC:
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In particular the second paragraph. "There is a possibility you may test positive on some antibody tests". If the answer was "you will test positive for Covid antibodies after getting the vaccine" we wouldn't be discussing this.

Everything we previously knew about vaccines is inaccurate now that they can do this mRNA method.

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I'm pretty sure it just depends on the antibody test, which specific antibodies are being searched for. If the antibody test is testing for antibodies against the spike protein then you will test positive. If the antibody test is searching for some other antibody then you won't.

To help me understand it better:

Vaccine = Oprah interview with Meghan and Harry
Virus = Piers Morgan
Immune System = Other Hosts and Guests
Body = Set of Good Morning Britain
Antibodies = Piers Morgan empty chair from the set of Good Morning Britain

I think I got it now.

ruggercsc said:

To help me understand it better:

Vaccine = Oprah interview with Meghan and Harry
Virus = Piers Morgan
Immune System = Other Hosts and Guests
Body = Set of Good Morning Britain
Antibodies = Piers Morgan empty chair from the set of Good Morning Britain

I think I got it now

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100%

Your immune system reacts to any vaccine by producing antibodies, and a number of other defenses (B cells etc.) which can get pretty complicated. I am certainly no expert but I do have some public health education and I work in public health. The reason CDC says "may" and not "will" is because it's not a research question that has been answered, and everyone's immune system is a little different. So you get the safe answer of "may". But everyone I work with who actually knows this stuff says that you are likely to test positive on an antibody test after being vaccinated.

And no, humanity does not have to throw out everything it knows about vaccines now. These are amazing new technologies that will revolutionize vaccination, but the basic principle is still the same: you introduce an antigen into the body (an antigen is simply a molecular component of a foreign body that the immune system will recognize and respond to), and the immune system hopefully responds and builds defenses against it. The mRNA vaccines just tell your cells to manufacture a piece of the virus that works as a good antigen, instead of injecting you with dead or attenuated whole viruses like with previous vaccines.

ruggercsc said:

To help me understand it better:

Vaccine = Oprah interview with Meghan and Harry
Virus = Piers Morgan
Immune System = Other Hosts and Guests
Body = Set of Good Morning Britain
Antibodies = Piers Morgan empty chair from the set of Good Morning Britain

I think I got it now.

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No, the uncomfortable questions and being faced with his own words are the antibodies that made Piers Morgan get up and leave!

Yesterday Louisiana opened up vaccines to everyone 16 and older with one preexisting condition. Preexisting conditions include being overweight (i.e. BMI greater than 25), which is also knows as "Louisiana normal size." LOL
https://ldh.la.gov/index.cfm/page/4137
My wife and I are scheduled for our first dose on Friday.

The speculation is that it will be open to everyone 16 and older by the end of April.

mr snick gets 1st dose today. we are still in the essential worker and 65+ phase.

jean15paul_PE said:

Yesterday Louisiana opened up vaccines to everyone 16 and older with one preexisting condition. Preexisting conditions include being overweight (i.e. BMI greater than 25), which is also knows as "Louisiana normal size." LOL
https://ldh.la.gov/index.cfm/page/4137
My wife and I are scheduled for our first dose on Friday.

The speculation is that it will be open to everyone 16 and older by the end of April.

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I'm so happy to hear that you and your wife are about to get it!

My wife gets her 2nd dose tomorrow as a critical worker. Almost didn't happen though. One of her coworkers tested positive two days ago and it was assumed she was a close contact, so my wife went into self quarantine and we were informed she would have to wait until she was released to get vaccinated. But then the contact tracers determined she was not a close contact, so the second dose is back on. Kind of nerve wracking. But my medical colleagues think that her risk would have been very low anyway because she was almost 4 weeks post first dose (Moderna), which should give pretty decent protection on its own.

Dleg said:

My wife gets her 2nd dose tomorrow as a critical worker. Almost didn't happen though. One of her coworkers tested positive two days ago and it was assumed she was a close contact, so my wife went into self quarantine and we were informed she would have to wait until she was released to get vaccinated. But then the contact tracers determined she was not a close contact, so the second dose is back on. Kind of nerve wracking. But my medical colleagues think that her risk would have been very low anyway because she was almost 4 weeks post first dose (Moderna), which should give pretty decent protection on its own.

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Glad that worked out

Very interesting data...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html

I got my first Moderna shot today and I am utterly disappointed. I thought it changed my DNA into a superhero and was looking forward to joining the Justice League or the Avengers. My only power was slowing down to 72 MPH just as I topped a small hill and saw a State Trooper sitting there. I was sure he could GPS on my recently implanted microchip and calculate how fast I was going.

availability really just depends where you are urban/rural. Chicago is still having issues finding appts, but central IL it is actually rather easy to find appts somewhere whether county health department, hospital, pharmacy. But this is a recent development. Up until about 2 weeks ago only the health department was getting doses.

snickerd3 said:

availability really just depends where you are urban/rural. Chicago is still having issues finding appts, but central IL it is actually rather easy to find appts somewhere whether county health department, hospital, pharmacy. But this is a recent development. Up until about 2 weeks ago only the health department was getting doses.

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I agree. Folks who are willing to drive about an hour are able to get appointments. people have had success with the mass vaccination drives in Chicago.

I friend of my who is originally from California said that protestors have shut down the mass vaccination events at Dodgers stadium.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...disrupt-l-a-s-dodger-stadium-vaccination-site

"The demonstrators included members of anti-vaccine and far-right groups, the newspaper said."

What does that mean? Nazis? Q-anons? Ya'all-Qaeda?

Got my first of two arm doots. Still haven't received any messages from Q, but I'll keep waiting patiently.

squaretaper LIT AF PE said:

Got my first of two arm doots. Still haven't received any messages from Q, but I'll keep waiting patiently.

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Congrats on the doot.