EB Mafia

[JayKay PE]

This is why I loved no PM rounds. Makes people try to be friends. It's where the @tj_PE "are you mafia?" started

 

[squaretaper LIT AF PE]

I should have known @squaretaper LIT AF PE was the 3rd mafia

For the last time, I'm NOT ma.....oh wait.

 

[NikR_PE]

I think Becca is sus for setting up RBH too give his vote altering speech.

^this

 

[Eye Hate Landscaping PE]

I've changed my mind, @JayKay PE I vote for @RBHeadge PE because they haven't been mafia in a while and I have a gut feeling.

I could see it...I was squinting.

 

[DLD PE]

Good game everyone! I totally enjoyed this round, with the no PMs and it being so close.

Great writing and thanks for modding @JayKay PE !

 

[Tiger15]

Now I want some artisanal nut butters.

 

[NikR_PE]

Thanks for modding @JayKay PE and for the great storytelling.

 

[txjennah PE]

Great game all! Thanks for modding @JayKay PE

Ahahahaha @beccabun PE , good job on staying alive. I was frustrated when people weren't voting for you, even after ghostie me was PULLING OUT THE RECEIPTS

And this is just another game to support my theory that if @squaretaper LIT AF PE survives the first night killing, he's mafia.

 

[DoctorWho-PE]

Great game all! Thanks for modding @JayKay PE

Ahahahaha @beccabun PE , good job on staying alive. I was frustrated when people weren't voting for you, even after ghostie me was PULLING OUT THE RECEIPTS

And this is just another game to support my theory that if @squaretaper LIT AF PE survives the first night killing, he's mafia.

I would like to point out that last week I was voting random. I was barely functioning as a human. Otherwise, I might have been more in tune to what was going on. I am sorry I let you all down.

 

[txjennah PE]

I would like to point out that last week I was voting random. I was barely functioning as a human. Otherwise, I might have been more in tune to what was going on. I am sorry I let you all down.

Wasn't calling you out @vhab49_PE , I meant it in good fun! I've barely been a functional player for awhile now, I understand! Real life > Mafia

 

[JayKay PE]

I'd be down for another round as mod, with the trigger component and maybe another new role, if people are interested. I prob won't have a fun story, but I forgot how much I liked being mod when there aren't PMs (meaning I get to see where things are going and squeal in delight).

 

[JayKay PE]

And when I say I don't have a fun story...it means I'll prob ask my mom for a theme again and it'll turn into aggressive hummingbird enthusiast take down during a bird watching exhibition.

 

[JayKay PE]

Trrrrrrrrrrrriple post

 

[DLD PE]

I'd be down for another round as mod, with the trigger component and maybe another new role, if people are interested. I prob won't have a fun story, but I forgot how much I liked being mod when there aren't PMs (meaning I get to see where things are going and squeal in delight).

I'm in for any intestinal @JayKay PE mod round, whatever the story (or not) happens. I approve the non-PMs. I wish you hadn't told us the trigger, that way we might see it unfold the next round. I'm sure you can come up with all kinds of clever triggers though!

I'm sure you enjoyed me figuring @RBHeadge PE was mafia, and then being gullible enough to change my vote after his "Are you willing to risk losing the town based on my principals?" crap or whatever he said BUT I FELL FOR IT!!! Bwaaahahahaaha!

Maybe next round I'll express all my votes/analysis in per unit, or complex math, since that's all my brain can retain at the moment.

 

[JayKay PE]

I'm in for any intestinal @JayKay PE mod round, whatever the story (or not) happens. I approve the non-PMs. I wish you hadn't told us the trigger, that way we might see it unfold the next round. I'm sure you can come up with all kinds of clever triggers though!

I'm sure you enjoyed me figuring @RBHeadge PE was mafia, and then being gullible enough to change my vote after his "Are you willing to risk losing the town based on my principals?" crap or whatever he said BUT I FELL FOR IT!!! Bwaaahahahaaha!

Maybe next round I'll express all my votes/analysis in per unit, or complex math, since that's all my brain can retain at the moment.

Rule Four of Mafia: If @RBHeadge PE doesn't outright say they're a townie, they're a special character.

Rule Five of Mafia: It is assumed that @NikR_PE is mafia due to their icon. There is a +85% chance that they are a normal townie.

 

[NikR_PE]

Rule Five of Mafia: It is assumed that @NikR_PE is mafia due to their icon. There is a +85% chance that they are a normal townie.

And the randomizer always hates me.

 

[DLD PE]

Ok I trust you now, I guess?

So glad we've finally reached this phase in our mafia relationship.

 

[DoctorWho-PE]

I think it would be... interesting (?) to try a round where there were equal numbers of mafia/townies (or close) and everyone was blind and had to figure out who your fellow townies/mafia were. Not fully fleshed out in my brain, but something along those lines. Maybe more spy v spy than mafia? Maybe each side has an investigator.

 

[DoctorWho-PE]

So glad we've finally reached this phase in our mafia relationship.

That trust was specifically reserved for that round. Don't get cozy.

 

[RBHeadge PE]

Rule Four of Mafia: If @RBHeadge PE doesn't outright say they're a townie, they're a special character.

I categorically avoid publicly stating my role or alignment regardless. I have to play it ambiguous for the sake of long-term strategy and game mechanics. See below:

1) If I say I'm townie early and everyone accepts and knows it's true then I become an early nightkill target. Result: early game exit.
1a) If I say I'm townie early and everyone accepts and knows it's true then the town is benefited ~80% of the games. Result: game becomes too easy for the townies to win and the mafia tends to lose. Game becomes less fun in the long run for everyone.

2) If I say I'm townie early every game, then the assumption is that if I don't say it then I'm mafia and I get lynched early. Result: early game exit
2a) Following the reasoning above, then if I stay quiet only when mafia, then the mafia is disadvantaged ~20% of the games. Result: game becomes too easy for the townies to win and the mafia tends to lose. Game becomes less fun in the long run for everyone.

The result of 1a and 1b is that the town always benefits from that playstyle alone - irrespective of anything else I do. Result: the game isn't fun or viable in the long run.
The mod will need to overcompensate and give advantage to the mafia to ensure game balance. But that risks making it too hard for the town, or games too short especially if things are too unlucky in the town in the first couple days. Result: Result: the game isn't fun or viable in the long run.

3) If I play it ambiguous then the mafia doesn't try to nightkill me in the early game (for no other reason than to get rid of a 'known' townie). They can use the ambiguity to their advantage try to make me look maf as a strategy. Result: I get to play into the mid-game, and neither the town or maf get an unwarranted advantage.
3a) If I play it ambiguous every game, and prove my townieness through gameplay, then the town knowns not to kneejerk into the silence=maf fallacy and vote me out immediately. Result: The town gives me a few days to prove my worth. I get a few days to observe and play to my strength in the mid-game through end-game. In the long run, this doesn't benefit the town or mafia too much. Especially since anyone, including eliminated players can comment and speculate in the thread.
3b) This strategy requires accepting occasional mislynches will occur as a price to pay for playing it ambiguous. It feels like every 6 months or so I need to get lynched just as a reminder to the town that silence=/=mafia. Mislynches are a natural consequence of the mafia utilizing my ambiguity as a strategy.
3c) The ambiguous strategy means that I get nightkilled during the later midphase of the game. Usually a day or so after I prove my alignment through actions and contributions.
3c1) I legitimately despise the silence=maf fallacy. My pushback this round was based only on that. It wasn't planned and I didn't think my post would actually change any minds. And you should expect me to get annoyed by it in the future too. I will totally accept a few mislynches in a row just to drive the point home - regardless of the cost to the town. Recall that, out of spite, I don't provide analysis to the town as a lynched townie ghost; and I liberally use the word 'dumbass' for the rest of the round.

I personally prefer the midphase of the game. The early game it too blind, and the endgame is just playing out the script. I don't care about surviving the game, so much as I like figuring out the mystery and formulating strategy and tactics.