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OREGON.

Does anyone know when we will get the results?

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OREGON.

Does anyone know when we will get the results?

I looked the past several years under FAQs and it seems consistent that we will get the results middle of next week. This is based on how the other states are getting their results compared to when we usually get ours. I asked twice and was told two things:

"Hopefully by Christmas" by a Secretary with a funny look on her face on December 1st when I was applying to take PE exam giving application materials in person without knowing if I passed FE exam...

"Early to Mid January" by a staff person who should know when she called me about an issue in early/mid December unrelated to the tests....

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I looked the past several years under FAQs and it seems consistent that we will get the results middle of next week. This is based on how the other states are getting their results compared to when we usually get ours. I asked twice and was told two things:

"Hopefully by Christmas" by a Secretary with a funny look on her face on December 1st when I was applying to take PE exam giving application materials in person without knowing if I passed FE exam...

"Early to Mid January" by a staff person who should know when she called me about an issue in early/mid December unrelated to the tests....

It seems like Oregon, NY, Maryland and Virginia will all be the middle of next week based on the past few years. So, we all just have a few more days!

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I took the Oregon PE last year and the letter was in my mailbox on Jan 5, a Saturday. The letter was dated Dec 31.

However I took the LSIT in Oregon a couple years before that and it arrived on Jan 18 with a letter dated Jan 11.

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If you don't know about it already, you can also search for your status on the OSBEELS website (www.osbeels.org --> "Find a Licensee" at the top). My coworker's info was online a day before she received the letter for the April exam but I don't recall if I tried looking online before I received my letter.

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If you don't know about it already, you can also search for your status on the OSBEELS website (www.osbeels.org --> "Find a Licensee" at the top). My coworker's info was online a day before she received the letter for the April exam but I don't recall if I tried looking online before I received my letter.

Thanks klk_pdx,

I tried to check my status on that site, but it was not updated yet.

Compared to last year, notification seems to be delayed. Still Waiting

...~

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I talked to someone at OSBEELS on Thursday the 8th.

They said they're probably sending out letters next week. And the website won't be updated for a couple weeks after that.

Edited by oregengr

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I also called the board and talked to an "Administrative Specialist ". He told me they had results but the computers are in the midst of being transferred to a new system which is the reason for the delay. He told me the exam results table on the web site under the What's New tab which say the results have been received and sent to the examinees is wrong (no kidding??). He said that he expects that the results letters to be sent out in approximately a week and a half.

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...and these are the people in charge of making sure that Engineers are qualified to perform their work. Spectacular.

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He told me the exam results table on the web site under the What's New tab which say the results have been received and sent to the examinees is wrong (no kidding??).

Yeah, in the several years that I've been looking at their website, I've never seen anything change on the "What's New" Page.

...and these are the people in charge of making sure that Engineers are qualified to perform their work. Spectacular.

Several people I know have had problems with their exam applications due to issues with OSBEELS staff. The fact that they STILL have the wrong address and incorrect exam fees listed on their applications is unexcusable. (they moved offices in 2007)

Sorry you all have to wait longer than usual. Good luck everyone.

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I just love how we are expected to just grin and bear it, when they are screwing up, yet we basically have to read their mind during the application process. If you mistake on one item throughout the application phase, they treat you like an idiot that can't follow their direction, and most likely will reject your application.

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I just love how we are expected to just grin and bear it, when they are screwing up, yet we basically have to read their mind during the application process. If you mistake on one item throughout the application phase, they treat you like an idiot that can't follow their direction, and most likely will reject your application.

I went to hand-deliver my PE exam application to the wrong address because they can't update their website with correct information.

Also, they also questioned whether my required experience qualified as "engineering experience"...while they are in the middle of a big issue statewide where they don't want non-engineers performing engineering work. If I'm applying to take the PE exam, how can I legally have "engineering experience" without being a professional engineer? I had to write a letter and re-apply, after which they let me take the exam.

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Guys,

It reads like a lot of complaining...

I've personally had great experience with OSBEELS - never a problem. Sure, they've got rules to follow, just like everyone else.

Waiting_wes: If you make a mistake on the application, it's your fault - not theirs. I'd agree they should be reasonable in fixing the mistake, but you can't be too upset for not following the directions.

Yahred: Regarding the "engineering experience", surely you're familiar with the EIT concept. Of course you can have engineering experience without being a PE.

Bottom line: My only complaint with OSBEELS is they still haven't figured out how to process application renewals on the website. It's been "in the works" for a while!

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Guys,

It reads like a lot of complaining...

I've personally had great experience with OSBEELS - never a problem. Sure, they've got rules to follow, just like everyone else.

Waiting_wes: If you make a mistake on the application, it's your fault - not theirs. I'd agree they should be reasonable in fixing the mistake, but you can't be too upset for not following the directions.

Yahred: Regarding the "engineering experience", surely you're familiar with the EIT concept. Of course you can have engineering experience without being a PE.

Bottom line: My only complaint with OSBEELS is they still haven't figured out how to process application renewals on the website. It's been "in the works" for a while!

To be perfectly honest, I didn't make a mistake on my application, because I hand-delivered my application and fees associated with it. If I hadn't hand-delivered the application, my application approval would have either been delayed or rejected because the application documentation you receive off their website contains incorrect information; i.e. Application fee, mailing address.

The individual at the front desk was kind enough to inform me of these errors prior to submittal of my application.

I have no issue with following directions, as long as the directions given to me are the correct ones.

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the application documentation you receive off their website contains incorrect information; i.e. Application fee, mailing address.

That's certainly a legitimate complaint. What did OSBEELS tell you when you explained the incorrect website information?

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Guys,

It reads like a lot of complaining...

I've personally had great experience with OSBEELS - never a problem. Sure, they've got rules to follow, just like everyone else.

Waiting_wes: If you make a mistake on the application, it's your fault - not theirs. I'd agree they should be reasonable in fixing the mistake, but you can't be too upset for not following the directions.

Yahred: Regarding the "engineering experience", surely you're familiar with the EIT concept. Of course you can have engineering experience without being a PE.

Bottom line: My only complaint with OSBEELS is they still haven't figured out how to process application renewals on the website. It's been "in the works" for a while!

I'm familiar with the EIT concept, but it seems that the processor of my application was not. I submitted my work history including a reference from my supervising engineer, and they said I didn't provide evidence that my work met the criteria of the ORS definition of engineering work. I then had to get a specific letter from my supervising engineer quoting the ORS engineering work section, after which they approved my exam registration. The letter contained the same information as the reference form...nothing had changed.

The test prep, application paperwork, and exam itself take plenty of our time, there's no reason for them to make things more time consuming unnecessarily. It really isn't much worse than most government processes, but I thought this was an arena where others would have similar experiences, so I thought I'd share.

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I'm familiar with the EIT concept, but it seems that the processor of my application was not. I submitted my work history including a reference from my supervising engineer, and they said I didn't provide evidence that my work met the criteria of the ORS definition of engineering work. I then had to get a specific letter from my supervising engineer quoting the ORS engineering work section, after which they approved my exam registration. The letter contained the same information as the reference form...nothing had changed.

OK... so when you wrote "If I'm applying to take the PE exam, how can I legally have "engineering experience" without being a professional engineer?" that was a rhetorical question that you already knew the answer to?

It sounds like they didn't like the original reference (perhaps it wasn't written clearly to make it obvious it met the requirements for engineering work), your reference sent a specific letter saying he believed you *did* meet the requirements for engineering work), and the evaluator decided he'd go with the reference who was obviously very clear he felt your experience should count. Instead of complaining, you could have just said "thank you".

Well, maybe others have had experiences similar to yours. I'm sure you'd agree we all hope not. I didn't. I think OSBEELS does a decent job. Maybe I'm wrong.

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That's certainly a legitimate complaint. What did OSBEELS tell you when you explained the incorrect website information?

Actually at first nothing. I left the building, and as I sat in my pickup, I had a strange 'hunch' that I had forgotten something. When I went back in, the individual at the front desk informed my that my check was not enough for the application fee. I was somewhat embarrassed and apologized, to which I was informed that they had just changed the fee amount, and hadn't updated their application form.

Also, if it wasn't for a friend who had just taken the exam, I would have never known where their office was at. They changed their address, understandable since they moved. Yet the application you get off of their website still contains their old address.

Forgive me for the complaining, but this is Week 12 since the exam, and it sounds as if it could be longer. NCEES announces a waiting period generally between 10-12 weeks, and frankly I've been anticipating results since week 5 (kidding, but I was and still am quite anxious).

Edited by Waiting_wes

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I understand what you're saying; I left out some specifics. There are some jurisdictions in Oregon that recently started arguing that if a certain discipline of engineering work is not performed directly by a Professional Engineer, it violates the law. Design work by the EIT along with supervision and design review by the Engineer were labeled as an unacceptable method. That's really the contradictory part. I'm trying to avoid being specific about my discipline because it isn't one of the big ones, so I aplogize for the lack of clarity.

Edit: Also I did thank someone for my approved application: my supervising engineer for taking the time to fill out paperwork for me twice. I am glad that OSBEELS took a second look at my application in time for me sit for the test though, so I do appreciate something they did.

Edited by Yahred

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Does anyone know why the hell OSBEELS demands that applications for the PE exam be submitted 6 weeks earlier than in the past?

Yes, it is because ELSES changed their deadline to be earlier. There was not enough time to review applications, send out notices requesting additional information, provide enough time for applicants to gather & submit the requested information, and provide review time for OSBEELS to give final approval before the ELSES deadline.

My co-worker applied to take the exam the same time as me (Oct 2007). They requested additional information and asked him to submit the info by a certain date. That date happened to be the same day of the ELSES deadline. Needless to say, he didn't have the "approval" to register for the exam. By some miracle, our manager managed to get my co-worker approved after the deadline (since OSBEELS screwed up) and signed up through ELSES to take the exam. Of course, he only had 3 days notice to study, but he's so brilliant he didn't have any problems passing the exam.

As for other problems I've seen with OSBEELS, they misplaced my grad school transcripts which caused them to initially reject my application, they were inconsistent with which foreign degrees they'd accept for the FE Exam (i.e. two coworkers, same foreign degree, one was approved, and the other was not), and the applications still show the wrong address and fees. The first things I listed were fairly easily fixed, but it did add considerable stress as we were simply informed that we didn't have the qualifications to sit for the exam. It took both of us a few calls to the OSBEELS office to sort out exactly why we weren't qualified, when in fact, we followed all the rules and were qualified.

However, I don't see any excuse for the application to still show incorrect information. They moved offices over a year and a half ago. And what they are doing about the increased fees (charging people's credit cards for the increased fee without providing notice) is technically illegal. There have been two rounds of applications submitted where the wrong fee was shown on the application. I think a year is plenty long enough to get the application fixed. Just my :2cents:

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I understand what you're saying; I left out some specifics. There are some jurisdictions in Oregon that recently started arguing that if a certain discipline of engineering work is not performed directly by a Professional Engineer, it violates the law. Design work by the EIT along with supervision and design review by the Engineer were labeled as an unacceptable method. That's really the contradictory part. I'm trying to avoid being specific about my discipline because it isn't one of the big ones, so I aplogize for the lack of clarity.

Edit: Also I did thank someone for my approved application: my supervising engineer for taking the time to fill out paperwork for me twice. I am glad that OSBEELS took a second look at my application in time for me sit for the test though, so I do appreciate something they did.

Fair enough... I think the issue is that experience must not be obtained in violation of licensure law. So it's reasonable to ask the question "was the experience you're seeking credit for in violation of some ORS?"

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Fair enough... I think the issue is that experience must not be obtained in violation of licensure law. So it's reasonable to ask the question "was the experience you're seeking credit for in violation of some ORS?"

I think that would have been a logical question to ask. My work was always properly reviewed and supervised, but perhaps others in my field have not been.

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