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I saw Louisiana results have been released. How'd everyone do?

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Passed MDM on my second attempt as well.

Failed April test with a 48/80. 

Used eng pro guides this time around and felt much more confident walking out than the first time. Only really studied the practice exams and read through the merm the first time.

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1 hour ago, Saul Good said:

Passed.  Power. It was my third time.  Doesn’t feel real yet.

Congrats!

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Congrats everyone.  Passed on my second attempt after failing in April.

 

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Congratulation everyone.

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On 12/12/2019 at 6:38 PM, Numbers25 said:

Passed MDM on my second attempt as well.

Failed April test with a 48/80. 

Used eng pro guides this time around and felt much more confident walking out than the first time. Only really studied the practice exams and read through the merm the first time.

Hi @Numbers25. Do you mind if I ask a question? (Obviously you don't have to answer.) What are you going to do with your MDM PE? I also have an MDM PE and I'm finding very few opportunities to use it. The only Mechanical PE opportunities I come across are mechanical systems in construction (plumbing, HVAC, etc). I mean having it does look good on my resume. But I'm curious if I'll ever use it.

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2 hours ago, jean15paul_PE said:

Hi @Numbers25. Do you mind if I ask a question? (Obviously you don't have to answer.) What are you going to do with your MDM PE? I also have an MDM PE and I'm finding very few opportunities to use it. The only Mechanical PE opportunities I come across are mechanical systems in construction (plumbing, HVAC, etc). I mean having it does look good on my resume. But I'm curious if I'll ever use it.

Coming out of school (2012) I wanted to get it strictly as a personal goal. Figured if I made it this far, finish the last step and get the PE. Had I been able to take it out of college, I would have been more comfortable taking the Thermal exam, but my entire career has been MDM based so I took that. I work in O&G and my first job didn't require it, but I switched to O&G consulting before being laid off. It was needed there as we did a lot of pressure vessel, dnv designs, and basic structural designs (skids, load bearing units, etc.) The new position I just took doesn't require it anymore either, but most of the positions that I interviewed that requested it involved consulting.

 

I am still considering a move down the line out of state and from my job searching it seems a larger number of the available positions required it than found here in LA.

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6 hours ago, Numbers25 said:

Coming out of school (2012) I wanted to get it strictly as a personal goal. Figured if I made it this far, finish the last step and get the PE. Had I been able to take it out of college, I would have been more comfortable taking the Thermal exam, but my entire career has been MDM based so I took that. I work in O&G and my first job didn't require it, but I switched to O&G consulting before being laid off. It was needed there as we did a lot of pressure vessel, dnv designs, and basic structural designs (skids, load bearing units, etc.) The new position I just took doesn't require it anymore either, but most of the positions that I interviewed that requested it involved consulting.

 

I am still considering a move down the line out of state and from my job searching it seems a larger number of the available positions required it than found here in LA.

Cool. Thanks for the insight.

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When is everyone starting on your "Part 2" application?

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In the process of getting my ncees record completed now. It’s difficult with it being in the middle of the holidays and having to get work verifications completed as well as references. I have already completed the online application to LAPELS just waiting to hit the send button after my NCEES record is complete. I hope I can have the application submitted to LAPELS by the second week of January and start the 8-10 week waiting period.  But this is the easy part. Only reason why I am somewhat in a hurry is because I have money tied to me getting my license.

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That's an aggressive schedule. Best of luck to you.

It took 2 months for me to finish my experience write ups, and 4 months for all of my references and verifications to respond. But I would think it would be faster for younger engineers. I had 15 years, and 5 jobs, across 3 different companies. I think I ended up contacting 11 people total because a couple didn't respond... and one told me it was against HR policy.

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8 hours ago, jean15paul_PE said:

That's an aggressive schedule. Best of luck to you.

It took 2 months for me to finish my experience write ups, and 4 months for all of my references and verifications to respond. But I would think it would be faster for younger engineers. I had 15 years, and 5 jobs, across 3 different companies. I think I ended up contacting 11 people total because a couple didn't respond... and one told me it was against HR policy.

Actually I have been out of school for 12 years. I thought it would be difficult but so far it’s been going very fast. I have worked for 5 companies. Ncees has already approved my work experience. I have 4 of my 5 supervisors signed off already and 4 of my 5 references. So I should be good to go by the second week of January.  I wrote a lot for my experience write ups.  I hope it’s enough for the board.  But we shall see.

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On 12/27/2019 at 10:28 AM, Saul Good said:

Actually I have been out of school for 12 years. I thought it would be difficult but so far it’s been going very fast. I have worked for 5 companies. Ncees has already approved my work experience. I have 4 of my 5 supervisors signed off already and 4 of my 5 references. So I should be good to go by the second week of January.  I wrote a lot for my experience write ups.  I hope it’s enough for the board.  But we shall see.

Cool. Yeah, I had some trouble with a couple of old positions, supervisors had moved on, were hard to get in touch with, etc. Also LAPELS rejected my first submittal. 

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§1527. Supervision by Licensed Professional

Engineering. Experience should be gained under the supervision of a professional engineer holding a valid license to engage in the practice of engineering issued to him/her by proper authority of a state, territory, or possession of the United States, or the District of Columbia, or, if not, an explanation shall be made showing why the experience should be considered acceptable.

Since some of my experience wasn't under a PE, I had to explicitly give an explanation saying "this wasn't under a PE, and this is why it should count." It wasn't enough for me to just describe the experience.

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31 minutes ago, jean15paul_PE said:

Cool. Yeah, I had some trouble with a couple of old positions, supervisors had moved on, were hard to get in touch with, etc. Also LAPELS rejected my first submittal. 

Since some of my experience wasn't under a PE, I had to explicitly give an explanation saying "this wasn't under a PE, this this is why it should count." It wasn't enough for me to just describe the experience.

Gotcha.  Yeah luckily I have always worked under a PE so hopefully I don’t run into any issues. 

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On 12/26/2019 at 12:55 PM, jean15paul_PE said:

When is everyone starting on your "Part 2" application?

So I submitted my application to LAPELS yesterday. Took me 18 days to get it together which is pretty good considering we are in the middle of the holidays. I didn’t think it would go that quickly.  Now the waiting period begins.

 

I was shocked though. I didn’t realize NCEES charged $100 to submit the NCEES record to LAPELS. And LAPELS charges you another $50 for the application fee. $150 is steep just for submitting an application considering the license fee itself is only $120 every two years.

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I just submitted my work history to NCEES this week. I fully expect to have it kicked back for edits and what not. @jean15paul_PE Did they give you a hard time about it your time not under a PE counting? Some of my experience, my direct supervisor was not licensed but a bit above him in upper management was licensed that I would like to use as reference.  

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14 minutes ago, Numbers25 said:

I just submitted my work history to NCEES this week. I fully expect to have it kicked back for edits and what not. @jean15paul_PE Did they give you a hard time about it your time not under a PE counting? Some of my experience, my direct supervisor was not licensed but a bit above him in upper management was licensed that I would like to use as reference.  

So I was actually the last submittal before LAPELS started using the NCEES record, so I didn't go through NCEES. I can describe what I did for LAPELS though. 

I grabbed the text from the LAPELS Rules document and application instructions regarding what you should consider when writing your experience record. I'll quote it below for your reference. And I made sure to address all those things. It actually made my writeups a bit longer. NCEES record has a character limit, right? Regardless, the considerations are still applicable, just gotta try to be more concise.

I submitted to LAPELS, and for the 3 of 5 positions that weren't under a PE, LAPELS came back and said your record is incomplete. They told me to explicitly say, "This wasn't under a PE, but it should still count because it was: (whichever of these is applicable) "progressive experience of increasing quality/responsibility", "demonstrates knowledge of math, science, engineering", and/or "demonstrates application of engineering principles". I literally added that statement to each record and they accepted it.

Here's the stuff LAPELS tell you  to consider.

 

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Experience must be progressive on engineering projects to indicate that it is of increasing quality and requiring greater responsibility.

Experience should include demonstration of a knowledge of engineering mathematics, physical and applied science, properties of materials, and the fundamental principles of engineering design.

Experience should include demonstration of the application of engineering principles in the practical solution of engineering problems.


When writing a description of your progressive engineering experience, the Board should be able to determine these factors:
• What was the purpose of the project?
• What was the size of the project? How big or small was the project?
• What was the value of the project? How much money was spent on the project and how many resources were used? What was the budget for the project?
• Is the experience progressive? Does the experience indicate that it is increasing in quality and requiring greater responsibility?
• Does the experience include knowledge of engineering mathematics, physical and applied science, properties of materials, and the fundamental principles of engineering design?
• Does the experience include application of engineering principles in the practical solution of engineering?

 

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4 hours ago, Numbers25 said:

I just submitted my work history to NCEES this week. I fully expect to have it kicked back for edits and what not. @jean15paul_PE Did they give you a hard time about it your time not under a PE counting? Some of my experience, my direct supervisor was not licensed but a bit above him in upper management was licensed that I would like to use as reference.  

NCEES did not kick back any of my work history. It took them about 6 buisness days to approve.  

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NCEES sent me an email on 1/2/2020 saying they had sent my record to the Louisiana board. I submitted my application to LAPELS on 12/30/2019.  I will keep y’all up to date on how long it takes me to get my license and if I encounter any issues from the board.

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6 hours ago, Saul Good said:

NCEES sent me an email on 1/2/2020 saying they had sent my record to the Louisiana board. I submitted my application to LAPELS on 12/30/2019.  I will keep y’all up to date on how long it takes me to get my license and if I encounter any issues from the board.

I just had my NCEES record transmitted and application submitted today. From what I've read on here it truly takes 6+ weeks for approval. Hoping it's sooner though. 

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Received email from LAPELS 1/6/2020, indicating my application was received. This is one week after I actually submitted it. 

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