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mp- I just checked and the Villas at Caesars are all booked through almost May - crazy! maybe they just don't have that many in each hotel?

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30 minutes ago, Road Guy said:

mp- I just checked and the Villas at Caesars are all booked through almost May - crazy! maybe they just don't have that many in each hotel?

Yeah, a lot of the resorts don't have any at all.  Mostly just the higher-end places like Caesars, Bellagio, MGM Grand, Aria, etc.  So they go quickly, and many of the people that stay in them aren't paying as they're on comps anyway.  So even if they say they're "full," they may not be booked--they're just holding some inventory back in case a billionaire decides to take a trip at the last minute.

Every once in a while I'll see one pop up as available at Mirage, but never ever on a weekend. And this time of year is peak season too.

 

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2 hours ago, mudpuppy said:

Yeah, the praying mantis is sweet!  We could see it from our room.

El cortez is a dump, but it's really old-school Vegas.  They even have slot machines that pay out in actual coins.  We spent a few nights at Aria (super high end) and then a couple at El Cortez (super low end) and it was fun to experience both.  I don't think my wife realized how gritty downtown is... I kind of liked the women wearing nothing but paint, but not sure she appreciated it.

 

My kid had been pretty scandalized by what he saw on The Strip (showgirls, regular girls in questionable outfit choices), but Fremont Street was a whole other ballgame. We saw more than one guy in a Borat swimsuit and, in between nude people, kids busking. It was rough. 

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Never seen anything quite so funny as Larry Flint's girls trying to pick up Mini-Tex on Bourbon Street when was 14...His eyes were huge and his jaw dropped.  He told them he was only 14, and they just laughed and said that was the age limit for the club.

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I feel weird.  Whenever I go to Vegas I always end up going to Polo Towers.  No casino in the hotel, and it's under my family timeshare (aka; pretty much free), but the bridge to Cosmo is literally right out to door...as well as the Taco Bell.  I feel like my Vegas is a lot more boring than everyone else's.  😓

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1 hour ago, JayKay0914 said:

I feel weird.  Whenever I go to Vegas I always end up going to Polo Towers.  No casino in the hotel, and it's under my family timeshare (aka; pretty much free), but the bridge to Cosmo is literally right out to door...as well as the Taco Bell.  I feel like my Vegas is a lot more boring than everyone else's.  😓

Nah, sounds like you have a similar chance of shitting your pants as anyone else does. 

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12 minutes ago, csb said:

Nah, sounds like you have similar chance of shitting your pants as anyone else does. 

I feel so enlightened.

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Last time just the wife and I went we didn't fly in until close to midnight and ended up at Drai's club at like 2 AM - If you think the strip is bad Holy Fuck there is some strange shit that goes on in those clubs, I wish I was in shape enough to go to one of the beach club party's.. But defin check it out before you are too old to go!

 

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1 hour ago, Road Guy said:

So who knows how to count cards?

 

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7 hours ago, Road Guy said:

So who knows how to count cards?

I think you start at 1, right?

I need to eventually make a trip to Vegas one of these days.

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Cards 2-5 are -1? Or something?

 

Most all professional gamblers are / were engineers... we should put a team together...

 

Not that I have been reading this while at my shit job or anything...

 

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On 2/8/2019 at 9:49 PM, Road Guy said:

Cards 2-5 are -1? Or something?

 

Most all professional gamblers are / were engineers... we should put a team together...

 

Not that I have been reading this while at my shit job or anything...

 

I can never even remember what I walked into a room for, or where I laid my phone 6 seconds ago.  I don't think I'd be a good card counter.

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40 minutes ago, Supe said:

I can never even remember what I walked into a room for, or where I laid my phone 6 seconds ago.  I don't think I'd be a good card counter.

Despite my avatar, I'm the same.  I kind of know the concept behind counting, but I can't remember anything from one hand to the next.  Too easily distracted.

The other thing with counting is the house is watching.  Unless you get an idiot dealer (they're out there), they know the counts too and will notice if your bet patterns follow the count.  It's not illegal, but if you're caught (or suspected) they can ask you to leave and never come back.

 

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UI thought the whole concept of using multiple decks and swapping out decks randomly kind of made counting irrelevant.

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It can still be done with multiple decks.  That's why they'll do stuff like forced dealer swaps if they're watching.

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I would think if you are playing small money you might stay off their radar? I watched the History Channel with the actual MIT folks from the movie 21- they were pushing 10's of thousands of dollars- so who knows if the dealer would bat an eye if your pushing a $200 bet? (Its pretty interesting if you can find it, I downloaded it off youtube)

I got bored and started reading too much into this, it does look pretty simple, but I wonder for us small timers, if you just not better off to employ the basic strategy and just make enough money to have some fun and a few hours of free drinks?

 

I would be curious if just knowing how many large cards are "out" if that would help?

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1 hour ago, Road Guy said:

I would think if you are playing small money you might stay off their radar? I watched the History Channel with the actual MIT folks from the movie 21- they were pushing 10's of thousands of dollars- so who knows if the dealer would bat an eye if your pushing a $200 bet? (Its pretty interesting if you can find it, I downloaded it off youtube)

I got bored and started reading too much into this, it does look pretty simple, but I wonder for us small timers, if you just not better off to employ the basic strategy and just make enough money to have some fun and a few hours of free drinks?

 

I would be curious if just knowing how many large cards are "out" if that would help?

 

Yeah, card counting at best gives you 0.5% to 1% advantage...  so for it to be profitable you need to play lots of hands.  And at low bets that doesn't amount to much.  Typically about 60-100 hands per hour, so at a $5 table that's less than $5 profit per hour on average.  $100 hands would be more profitable, but you're still going to lose around half your hands so you'd need a bankroll at least in the $1k to 2k range and be willing to lose it.

I imagine it's helpful to know if a lot of large cards are out.  Personally at a full table it's just too much work to me to keep track of everyone else's cards.  I'd rather watch the game or the eye candy while I play.

 

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That's why I play poker. It's a lot easier to control the game, and the house doesn't care if you're manipulating the table because they take a cut out of the pot regardless of who wins. They prefer the pots to be big.

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There is a show on Amazon Prime called "cheating vegas" that was pretty interesting - its the "real "story of the MIT / Boston University Medical blackjack teams - pretty nifty they went for more than a decade and only got busted by an inside mole who was on the team and then sought out the casino security team and basically got paid to out the team members. The security team then went and got the MIT yearbooks and scanned them all in to the database.  Their method was the big betters only came in when the table was in their favor and just bet a couple of really large hands and then walked away - apparently it worked for them for a long time. Its pretty interesting you all would enjoy it i think.

Two guys at our office lived in Vegas the last 10 years and they said they would go in and try and count through one or two decks and they said they would get to around $300 bucks and then would bail, they both said they had a few instances where they stayed after getting beyond $300 they were pulled aside and told that they could either continue to play but bet a constant bet every hand or they needed to leave. But they said they never had any place refuse to allow them to play -

I still think I just enjoy playing the pass line at craps and just maximizing my time at the table. Less stress that way IMO!

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On 2/8/2019 at 8:01 PM, Road Guy said:

One of the cosmo pools... :( 15 Dega here right now....
 

It's 37F in Vegas right now and 22F in Denver. Just put on your swimsuit and go lay on your own deck. 

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I did shovel all the snow in the sidewalk in my cul-de-sac in my running shorts Saturday?

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14 minutes ago, Road Guy said:

I did shovel all the snow in the sidewalk in my cul-de-sac in my running shorts Saturday?

Full split? :eyebrows:

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